Thanks Eric. You are as always right on the money.
And that's it, right? Money? Isn't that part of the answer why we see bothsiderism and normalization? Revenue, revenue revenue.
I might expand your premise concerning the Democratic party a bit to suggest that virtually no other democratic country would allow the propaganda that fills our airways and social media. Imagine any country in Europe that fought fascism and accompanying gas-lighting allowing trump's lies to air for 4 straight days.
One more point: in his new book, “Hoax: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth,” which will be released tomorrow, Brian Stelter of CNN tries to expose the propaganda network of trump's party. (The book shot from No. 340 to No. 1 on Amazon's best-seller's list following Stelter's appearance with Rachel Maddow on MSNBC Friday.) So Press Run and Hoax for the next 4 nights I suggest, with a little Eric Alterman thrown in.
Please keep up your work Eric, it is truly needed.
It’s about more than just money. Read this article about how Frank Bruni covered Bush and Gore. He was thrilled that Bush gave him a nickname and Bruni reciprocated by telling Bush he loved him!
“Bush knew a good thing when he saw it. As a candidate, he put his arms around Bruni, whom he nicknamed “Panchito” Bruni, and cooed, “You know we love you.” Later, Bush looked across a crowded room at Bruni and mouthed, “I love you, man.” “
The media may just give Trump the bounce he and his campaign are looking for because you are correct Eric. The media will surely attempt to normalize what this president is doing. My fear is that the undecided (I know, how can anyone be undecided about this?) that are leaning right, will feel enabled to vote for Trump again. You combine that with folks who say they are voting for Biden but really intend to vote for Trump because they don't want to be ridiculed or those who will vote for him simply because he puts and R after his name, add to that voter suppression and we just might have this clinically diagnosed mentally disabled leader of the free world for another four years. The one thing I predict shortly after the election results, if Trump were to win again, is that Canada's immigration web site will surely crash.
I live in NJ where our votes are pretty much legit. However we can't just sit back and feel confident that because NJ (or your state) will go blue that there's nothing else we can do. Go to Votefwd.org and sign up to send letters to likely voters in vulnerable districts in swing states. There's always something we can at least try to do to combat the constant voter suppression from the right. There are also many phone banks you can get involved with. Our votes count and so do our actions. This is our revolution and our weapon is our vote.
I.F. Stone is a better model for serious journalists. He never sold his soul for access and was still able to expose some of the most egregious corruption of his time working out of a one room office with little to no staff.
And if you’re going to condemn Michael Flynn for being too close to Russian Agents; Stone & several Soviet Agents we’re on a first name basis. Stone was never convicted, or even tried, for espionage. But information passed both ways.
I came to that conclusion watching The Washington Post's fact-checker constantly find ticky-tack "lies" told by Democrats in the pursuit of "balance" as opposed to republicans. The Times tends to do the same thing.
I have been looking at media coverage of Trump and the GOP, and I couldn't help but remember Joe Isuzu. The media should cover the convention on tape delay and add disclaimers the way the Isuzu commercials did. Too much to hope for, I know, but they should do that with every Trump/GOP presser.
Again Mr. Boehlert, more Trump on TV is good. The more people see the unhinged, incoherent, blustering Trump the less likely they are to vote for him. Bring on the Yo-Semites. Let’s hear more of Thigh-land.
One of these days we need to discuss your view of the American voter. Are Americans really so ignorant as to accept that Dr. Fauci created HIV as a means of population control? If so; we’ve got much bigger problems than Trump.
I can’t seem to show you that the power you wish to grant to corporations to block “lies” easily can be turned against you. Blithely assuming that only Republicans ever lie and you will never be the victim of such corporate power; strikes me as reckless. What is used against Republicans today can be used against you tomorrow.
boy, i just can't sign off on that idea that more Trump = good. I understand your point, but i just think the volume poisons things, rarely than clarifies
Okay Mr. Boehlert. Let’s make it interesting. $25 to the homeless shelter of your choice if Trump doesn’t say something appalling stupid tonight.
But I’m bothered/scared by what you’re suggesting about the American Public. Are we really so ignorant as to believe Trump after seeing him in action for four years?
We know Trump’s GOT to drive up Biden’s negatives. That’s is only chance at winning. So expect the sludge.
Sadly, according to FiveThirtyEight ( https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/) today Trump somehow enjoys a 41.7% approval rating; so though I doubt your question "...are we really so ignorant...." was rhetorical, Americans are that ignorant and I'd add racist and misogynistic.
The good news is that Trump’s 41.7% is at the low end of his scale.
The bad news is that if 40% of the voting public is ignorant (I hope) or racist/misogynistic (I fear); then what future do we have in America? Ignorance can be fixed. Racism?
Yours is s safe bet if it's with someone like Mr. Boehlert who can see through trump's lies. However, you would lose that bet if it were with some of the trump supporters in my area.
"Are we really so ignorant as to believe Trump after seeing him in action for four years?"
The answer is yes among the 41% who still approve of him. How to explain that?
There were a number of truly appalling things said by the various speakers. I’d said Trump himself. I won’t count them.
Trump did say something I agree with when he spoke about how few realize how divided we were under President Obama. The fact that Republicans opposed President Obama literally from day one; allows me to suggest this is appallingly stupid but true.
I’ll pass “12 More Years” as an attempted joke. I can’t explain it further but it seemed like he was trying for a laugh.
So I’ll suggest two possibilities:
1. “We’re not getting rid of Postal Workers”.
2. (We were really coming together before the plague) Sorry forget the exact quote.
These are just my two picks. Anyone is welcome to add to the list.
Appallingly stupid. Where did getting rid of Postal Workers come from save from Trump’s personal opposition to USPS aid?
Covid caused the fracture in the country? Like three years of Trump hadn’t done it? Like he wasn’t impeached before the pandemic? This is my personal pick.
Either way, or pick your own, I respectfully suggest you owe $25 to a homeless shelter of your choice.
The Fairness Doctrine worked well during its tenure. It was never considered reckless. I think it unduly optimistic to believe reason will prevail in the face of lies that seem obvious. However, both past and recent history have proven otherwise when it comes to trump. Holding him accountable for his lies by refusing to give him a platform is the least the media could do.
Thanks Eric. You are as always right on the money.
And that's it, right? Money? Isn't that part of the answer why we see bothsiderism and normalization? Revenue, revenue revenue.
I might expand your premise concerning the Democratic party a bit to suggest that virtually no other democratic country would allow the propaganda that fills our airways and social media. Imagine any country in Europe that fought fascism and accompanying gas-lighting allowing trump's lies to air for 4 straight days.
One more point: in his new book, “Hoax: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth,” which will be released tomorrow, Brian Stelter of CNN tries to expose the propaganda network of trump's party. (The book shot from No. 340 to No. 1 on Amazon's best-seller's list following Stelter's appearance with Rachel Maddow on MSNBC Friday.) So Press Run and Hoax for the next 4 nights I suggest, with a little Eric Alterman thrown in.
Please keep up your work Eric, it is truly needed.
so true abt how no other advanced democracy in the world would have a mainstream media that treats Trump the way he is.
It’s about more than just money. Read this article about how Frank Bruni covered Bush and Gore. He was thrilled that Bush gave him a nickname and Bruni reciprocated by telling Bush he loved him!
“Bush knew a good thing when he saw it. As a candidate, he put his arms around Bruni, whom he nicknamed “Panchito” Bruni, and cooed, “You know we love you.” Later, Bush looked across a crowded room at Bruni and mouthed, “I love you, man.” “
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/general/news/2011/05/26/9654/think-again-the-times-frank-bruni-or-how-to-succeed-in-journalism-without-really-caring-about-issues/
Bruni later soured on Bush but has never acknowledged his complicity in helping elect him with his sycophantic reporting.
The media may just give Trump the bounce he and his campaign are looking for because you are correct Eric. The media will surely attempt to normalize what this president is doing. My fear is that the undecided (I know, how can anyone be undecided about this?) that are leaning right, will feel enabled to vote for Trump again. You combine that with folks who say they are voting for Biden but really intend to vote for Trump because they don't want to be ridiculed or those who will vote for him simply because he puts and R after his name, add to that voter suppression and we just might have this clinically diagnosed mentally disabled leader of the free world for another four years. The one thing I predict shortly after the election results, if Trump were to win again, is that Canada's immigration web site will surely crash.
there are so many variables to be nervous abt for Nov, no doubt.
what happened to free/fair elections?
I’m beginning to wonder if we have ever had them. Republican voter suppression goes back decades.
I live in NJ where our votes are pretty much legit. However we can't just sit back and feel confident that because NJ (or your state) will go blue that there's nothing else we can do. Go to Votefwd.org and sign up to send letters to likely voters in vulnerable districts in swing states. There's always something we can at least try to do to combat the constant voter suppression from the right. There are also many phone banks you can get involved with. Our votes count and so do our actions. This is our revolution and our weapon is our vote.
I would like to know which is the most effective national get out the vote oganization to donate to.
Buckle up Lou, it's going to be a bumpy couple of months.
That's for sure!
I am desperately missing Walter Cronkite. The most trusted man in America. What happened to journalists and journalism?
six-figure book deals for DC journos covering the WH might have something to do with the decline. i.e. the love of access
Access not just to get more stories but to be part of the DC power players’ club. They love being “in” with them.
Good point.
I.F. Stone is a better model for serious journalists. He never sold his soul for access and was still able to expose some of the most egregious corruption of his time working out of a one room office with little to no staff.
I F Stone has been dead for 30 years.
And if you’re going to condemn Michael Flynn for being too close to Russian Agents; Stone & several Soviet Agents we’re on a first name basis. Stone was never convicted, or even tried, for espionage. But information passed both ways.
I'll disagree. He would be allowed on TV, but they would be constantly--and I do mean constantly, and in real time--refuting and mocking him.
good point. It would likely be nonstop pile-on
I came to that conclusion watching The Washington Post's fact-checker constantly find ticky-tack "lies" told by Democrats in the pursuit of "balance" as opposed to republicans. The Times tends to do the same thing.
I have been looking at media coverage of Trump and the GOP, and I couldn't help but remember Joe Isuzu. The media should cover the convention on tape delay and add disclaimers the way the Isuzu commercials did. Too much to hope for, I know, but they should do that with every Trump/GOP presser.
I wrote it up here: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/24/1971858/-With-the-GOP-convention-about-to-start-Eric-Boehlert-warns-of-the-media-double-standard?_=2020-08-24T10:17:17.510-07:00
Again Mr. Boehlert, more Trump on TV is good. The more people see the unhinged, incoherent, blustering Trump the less likely they are to vote for him. Bring on the Yo-Semites. Let’s hear more of Thigh-land.
One of these days we need to discuss your view of the American voter. Are Americans really so ignorant as to accept that Dr. Fauci created HIV as a means of population control? If so; we’ve got much bigger problems than Trump.
I can’t seem to show you that the power you wish to grant to corporations to block “lies” easily can be turned against you. Blithely assuming that only Republicans ever lie and you will never be the victim of such corporate power; strikes me as reckless. What is used against Republicans today can be used against you tomorrow.
boy, i just can't sign off on that idea that more Trump = good. I understand your point, but i just think the volume poisons things, rarely than clarifies
Okay Mr. Boehlert. Let’s make it interesting. $25 to the homeless shelter of your choice if Trump doesn’t say something appalling stupid tonight.
But I’m bothered/scared by what you’re suggesting about the American Public. Are we really so ignorant as to believe Trump after seeing him in action for four years?
We know Trump’s GOT to drive up Biden’s negatives. That’s is only chance at winning. So expect the sludge.
Sadly, according to FiveThirtyEight ( https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/) today Trump somehow enjoys a 41.7% approval rating; so though I doubt your question "...are we really so ignorant...." was rhetorical, Americans are that ignorant and I'd add racist and misogynistic.
The good news is that Trump’s 41.7% is at the low end of his scale.
The bad news is that if 40% of the voting public is ignorant (I hope) or racist/misogynistic (I fear); then what future do we have in America? Ignorance can be fixed. Racism?
Yours is s safe bet if it's with someone like Mr. Boehlert who can see through trump's lies. However, you would lose that bet if it were with some of the trump supporters in my area.
"Are we really so ignorant as to believe Trump after seeing him in action for four years?"
The answer is yes among the 41% who still approve of him. How to explain that?
About the RNC Convention last night.
There were a number of truly appalling things said by the various speakers. I’d said Trump himself. I won’t count them.
Trump did say something I agree with when he spoke about how few realize how divided we were under President Obama. The fact that Republicans opposed President Obama literally from day one; allows me to suggest this is appallingly stupid but true.
I’ll pass “12 More Years” as an attempted joke. I can’t explain it further but it seemed like he was trying for a laugh.
So I’ll suggest two possibilities:
1. “We’re not getting rid of Postal Workers”.
2. (We were really coming together before the plague) Sorry forget the exact quote.
These are just my two picks. Anyone is welcome to add to the list.
Appallingly stupid. Where did getting rid of Postal Workers come from save from Trump’s personal opposition to USPS aid?
Covid caused the fracture in the country? Like three years of Trump hadn’t done it? Like he wasn’t impeached before the pandemic? This is my personal pick.
Either way, or pick your own, I respectfully suggest you owe $25 to a homeless shelter of your choice.
The Fairness Doctrine worked well during its tenure. It was never considered reckless. I think it unduly optimistic to believe reason will prevail in the face of lies that seem obvious. However, both past and recent history have proven otherwise when it comes to trump. Holding him accountable for his lies by refusing to give him a platform is the least the media could do.