I think it’s great they are quitting their jobs. Non-thinking individuals like this should have never been in healthcare, law enforcement, teaching, food service, etc, etc, in the first place. Empathy towards others is important in a civilized society. Since 2016 it has been easier to tell who does, and does not have that trait.
This is an excellent piece and model heuristic for reporting vs hot-takes on so many subjects today,
The "base rate" is 97% but the hot-take, required by the business model, is to provocatively frame the conversation around the 3%.
This is deliberate, for-profit emotional manipulation, just like Facebook does.
It would be so helpful to put a statistics stamp on any article that does this crap because without real information, our democracy is damaged, article by article.
I was reading this as they were broadcasting. They even described the numbers of these people as “minuscule” yet proceeded to give them a platform to spew their bs.
No these people are showing their HATE it all comes down to HATE. No I don't care if they quit if in Healthcare probably not treating people the same. Let's see how they act when house note due, they get sick, or their poor children who are stuck with these ignorant racist parents who dot care about them either. And why are we surprised when the news outlets take their side, when we know they are liars in everything they do and say.
I heard that piece, too. "They need to send in the Waambulance". Just like with children, dogs, horses...etc., why not focus on the positive? Just as another commentator stated, focus on the percent who've stayed with their jobs, who've gotten vaccinated, who are contributing in a positive way to society.
I fully understand that the mainstream rolls on reporting freakish events — without that garbage, they have little. But even given that and their business model, how does reporting on these quitters help societally? Which is to say they are harmful. Not just irresponsible reporting but harmful. You don’t need state pressures or actions to have something as dishonest as Pravda or the Peoples Daily; the private sector’s greed is enough.
Of course, eliminating the socially harmful leaves room so, for example, last week, the CBS Evening News (an FNC wannabe) could, in theory, spend more than a single sentence on the Pentagon’s announcement that climate change is a national security threat. In that instance, though, much of the news hole was filled with a more important story: Brian Laundrie’s bones.
We laughed when the USSR commies called us decadent but few characterizations fit better. Decadence is also why we have a far worse national response to the pandemic than we should given our resources.
They are also dumbing down the ‘news.’ Inane puff pieces have replaced solid news, such as those about anti vaxxers cited by Eric. The Inquirer, Star, all those gossip sheets used to be the papers to pick up for inside scopes about the stars. Network news, NPR, NYT, WAPO were the top of the line for straight news, solid reporting you could count on. Those media companies are devolving to the tabloid levels rather than their reverse. Up is still down in today’s public narratives.
'This imprudent fixation represents Both Sides journalism taken to an absurd extreme where the radical, barely-there minority is held up as being equally important and newsworthy as the vast majority.’ Your best line. The press regularly covered idiotic small groups protesting the “stop the steal” as though those people represented a large segment of the population. It’s absurd and not newsworthy.
And who could forget those "patriots" the Tea Party? Members of the press fell over themselves to report on those "spontaneous" groups against Obama who, just like these anti-vaxxers, are bankrolled and pushed by wealthy and influential right radicals determined to do damage and gain control.
I'll never forget Diane Sawyer's somber frownie face after a Tea Party story when she said sadly, "They are so angry." (Subtext: Poor white people's feelings are hurt!)
Diane Sawyer - then making $12M/year at ABC, and without a hint of irony - complained that Hillary Clinton had too much money to be in touch with regular people's needs.
LOL! I'm sure she did. I also remember the day after the 2012 election when, wide eyed and shocked said (paraphrase) who would have known that women and People of Colo had enough power to make the difference in the election. To be fair at least she acknowledged it. That may have been the last time anyone in mainslime media has.
‘Biden’s critics hurl increasingly vulgar taunts,’ Ashley Parker, et al October 23 Wapo. Paragraph after paragraph of nasty quotes from bitter, ugly folks; we already know the right hates Biden. But a whole story? Why do I care? How about the rest of us who are cheering for Biden to succeed? How about the success of the vaccination rates? Lower death rates? Lives saved? As to anti vaxxers, haven’t they gotten enough ink already? How many times must we read the same story over and over about the ignorance, hate and fear of these people. Once would have been one time too many.
And further, how many times when these things are reported do we minimize how harmful their misconduct is? These people are sociopaths, but not like "Dexter." Their misconduct always results in the deaths of lots of people who don't deserve to die.
Options for employees to get vaccinated or tested should include putting the cost of the testing on those who refuse the jab. Why should this idiotic intransigence be subsidized by employers and taxpayers, or for that matter, insurance companies?
This transmogrification of 96% - 4% ratios into 50/50 propositions are tiresome. "Bothsidesism" by the media is deadly during a pandemic. And the same ridiculous dynamic is at play with any number of other issues, most notably global warming.
I completely don't care about anti-vaxxers. Screw them! The only concern I have is these idiots are allowing other Covid mutations to come about and also puts healthcare workers in harms way. Years ago, the government mandated that all auto makers install seatbelts and eventually airbags in cars. Was that a violation of driver's rights? Too fucking bad if it was. Nincompoops that didn't want safer cars never understood that their safety didn't only help themselves but each other and also helped to bring healthcare costs down because these auto safety measures prevented more serious accidents. But (as usual) I digress. There are countless s examples of government mandating stuff for what, to be an authoritarian power or to help and protect the people of this country? It's the latter because that's what a responsible government in a democracy does. We're all in this together. Furthermore I don't recall on a daily bases the MSM interviewing the small percentage of dolts that didn't want seat belts back in the late sixties and early seventies. Another indication of how our news organizations have devolved into something the founders had never intended.
I've got a simple brain: If someone willfully puts fellow employees at risk of death or suffering, they should be fired. The old definition of news was "man bites dog." Now it's the other way around.
Attention confers influence, and the more attention the more the influence. The media has to know this so what is there motivation other than stoking outrage just as Republicans are always doing.
The tiny few who give up their jobs for refusing to vaccinate are the resistance fighting for a noble cause. The much larger group who didn't go back to work for slave wages are destroying the economy.
I think this is just the most recent iteration of the mainstream press's breathless normalizing of all thing Republican. They never stopped interviewing Maga types in diners all over the country to try to make Trump supporters look somehow reasonable. What this reporting does is give these people the impression that their numbers are greater than they are. Many of them absolutely believe that Biden couldn't have won because he didn't have big rallies. To them, the numbers just don't add up. Trying to explain to them that voters from Trump rallies can easily be outvoted by the rest of us just falls on deaf, irrational ears.
In my opinion, though, this, too, shall pass. They will quit their jobs and life will go on. Many will die of covid while life goes on for the rest of us. No matter how these crazies and the media want to spin it, the fact is that most of us welcome the vaccine. That's the truth of it and their reports can't change that.
PS. Just saw this NYT article via today’s Boston Globe, headlined “Early leaders US, Israel now behind in shots.’ This, too is all about numbers and made into a horse race. I really have no interest in knowing where the US stands versus Portugal, eg. regarding the %age of their population that is vaccinated. Can the msm STOP seeing every story through this inane competitive prism, PLEASE.
The Hill is reporting that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is telling the recently quit police to come to Florida and is dangling a $5,000 bonus (not yet allocated) if they come.
So the folks who quit over culture war issues are heroes celebrated by our Failed Political Press ™ , and the folks who are holding out from returning to pandemic unsafe working conditions are cowards and moochers. If this isn’t late-stage American Capitalism, I want to know what is.
I think it’s great they are quitting their jobs. Non-thinking individuals like this should have never been in healthcare, law enforcement, teaching, food service, etc, etc, in the first place. Empathy towards others is important in a civilized society. Since 2016 it has been easier to tell who does, and does not have that trait.
agreed: what a great way for PD's to weed out the Fox News cops
This is an excellent piece and model heuristic for reporting vs hot-takes on so many subjects today,
The "base rate" is 97% but the hot-take, required by the business model, is to provocatively frame the conversation around the 3%.
This is deliberate, for-profit emotional manipulation, just like Facebook does.
It would be so helpful to put a statistics stamp on any article that does this crap because without real information, our democracy is damaged, article by article.
and right on cue, NPR did a big (sympathetic) piece this morning....on people who quit their jobs bc not vaccinated.
I was reading this as they were broadcasting. They even described the numbers of these people as “minuscule” yet proceeded to give them a platform to spew their bs.
No these people are showing their HATE it all comes down to HATE. No I don't care if they quit if in Healthcare probably not treating people the same. Let's see how they act when house note due, they get sick, or their poor children who are stuck with these ignorant racist parents who dot care about them either. And why are we surprised when the news outlets take their side, when we know they are liars in everything they do and say.
Ugh...
I'd hate to support the fake news crowd, but it's pretty hard to see the press as a social positive these days... 😪
(I recall a controversy about NPR getting Koch funding?)
I heard an NPR "documentary" in 2016 which was in reality a Koch Brothers tongue bath complete with giggly reporter.
I heard that piece, too. "They need to send in the Waambulance". Just like with children, dogs, horses...etc., why not focus on the positive? Just as another commentator stated, focus on the percent who've stayed with their jobs, who've gotten vaccinated, who are contributing in a positive way to society.
I fully understand that the mainstream rolls on reporting freakish events — without that garbage, they have little. But even given that and their business model, how does reporting on these quitters help societally? Which is to say they are harmful. Not just irresponsible reporting but harmful. You don’t need state pressures or actions to have something as dishonest as Pravda or the Peoples Daily; the private sector’s greed is enough.
Of course, eliminating the socially harmful leaves room so, for example, last week, the CBS Evening News (an FNC wannabe) could, in theory, spend more than a single sentence on the Pentagon’s announcement that climate change is a national security threat. In that instance, though, much of the news hole was filled with a more important story: Brian Laundrie’s bones.
We laughed when the USSR commies called us decadent but few characterizations fit better. Decadence is also why we have a far worse national response to the pandemic than we should given our resources.
indeed, conflict is king. and *esp* right-wing conflict
Biases are one thing but devotion to scenarios is a real problem.
Besides being harmful societally, the mainstream’s disregard for honest reporting is driving the audience away from news outlets to social media.
They are also dumbing down the ‘news.’ Inane puff pieces have replaced solid news, such as those about anti vaxxers cited by Eric. The Inquirer, Star, all those gossip sheets used to be the papers to pick up for inside scopes about the stars. Network news, NPR, NYT, WAPO were the top of the line for straight news, solid reporting you could count on. Those media companies are devolving to the tabloid levels rather than their reverse. Up is still down in today’s public narratives.
Not just dumbing down but the mainstream isn’t just biased but harmful.
'This imprudent fixation represents Both Sides journalism taken to an absurd extreme where the radical, barely-there minority is held up as being equally important and newsworthy as the vast majority.’ Your best line. The press regularly covered idiotic small groups protesting the “stop the steal” as though those people represented a large segment of the population. It’s absurd and not newsworthy.
it's just a complete obsession w/ far-right voices, no matter how small
And who could forget those "patriots" the Tea Party? Members of the press fell over themselves to report on those "spontaneous" groups against Obama who, just like these anti-vaxxers, are bankrolled and pushed by wealthy and influential right radicals determined to do damage and gain control.
See Dick Armey. $29 cowboy hat - $6M retirement payout!
I'll never forget Diane Sawyer's somber frownie face after a Tea Party story when she said sadly, "They are so angry." (Subtext: Poor white people's feelings are hurt!)
Diane Sawyer - then making $12M/year at ABC, and without a hint of irony - complained that Hillary Clinton had too much money to be in touch with regular people's needs.
LOL! I'm sure she did. I also remember the day after the 2012 election when, wide eyed and shocked said (paraphrase) who would have known that women and People of Colo had enough power to make the difference in the election. To be fair at least she acknowledged it. That may have been the last time anyone in mainslime media has.
‘Biden’s critics hurl increasingly vulgar taunts,’ Ashley Parker, et al October 23 Wapo. Paragraph after paragraph of nasty quotes from bitter, ugly folks; we already know the right hates Biden. But a whole story? Why do I care? How about the rest of us who are cheering for Biden to succeed? How about the success of the vaccination rates? Lower death rates? Lives saved? As to anti vaxxers, haven’t they gotten enough ink already? How many times must we read the same story over and over about the ignorance, hate and fear of these people. Once would have been one time too many.
It's like they use permanent marker on their whiteboards. You have spotlighted the sameness of the coverage.
And further, how many times when these things are reported do we minimize how harmful their misconduct is? These people are sociopaths, but not like "Dexter." Their misconduct always results in the deaths of lots of people who don't deserve to die.
Options for employees to get vaccinated or tested should include putting the cost of the testing on those who refuse the jab. Why should this idiotic intransigence be subsidized by employers and taxpayers, or for that matter, insurance companies?
This transmogrification of 96% - 4% ratios into 50/50 propositions are tiresome. "Bothsidesism" by the media is deadly during a pandemic. And the same ridiculous dynamic is at play with any number of other issues, most notably global warming.
I completely don't care about anti-vaxxers. Screw them! The only concern I have is these idiots are allowing other Covid mutations to come about and also puts healthcare workers in harms way. Years ago, the government mandated that all auto makers install seatbelts and eventually airbags in cars. Was that a violation of driver's rights? Too fucking bad if it was. Nincompoops that didn't want safer cars never understood that their safety didn't only help themselves but each other and also helped to bring healthcare costs down because these auto safety measures prevented more serious accidents. But (as usual) I digress. There are countless s examples of government mandating stuff for what, to be an authoritarian power or to help and protect the people of this country? It's the latter because that's what a responsible government in a democracy does. We're all in this together. Furthermore I don't recall on a daily bases the MSM interviewing the small percentage of dolts that didn't want seat belts back in the late sixties and early seventies. Another indication of how our news organizations have devolved into something the founders had never intended.
I've got a simple brain: If someone willfully puts fellow employees at risk of death or suffering, they should be fired. The old definition of news was "man bites dog." Now it's the other way around.
Attention confers influence, and the more attention the more the influence. The media has to know this so what is there motivation other than stoking outrage just as Republicans are always doing.
The tiny few who give up their jobs for refusing to vaccinate are the resistance fighting for a noble cause. The much larger group who didn't go back to work for slave wages are destroying the economy.
This is absolutely abhorrent disgusting propaganda
I think this is just the most recent iteration of the mainstream press's breathless normalizing of all thing Republican. They never stopped interviewing Maga types in diners all over the country to try to make Trump supporters look somehow reasonable. What this reporting does is give these people the impression that their numbers are greater than they are. Many of them absolutely believe that Biden couldn't have won because he didn't have big rallies. To them, the numbers just don't add up. Trying to explain to them that voters from Trump rallies can easily be outvoted by the rest of us just falls on deaf, irrational ears.
In my opinion, though, this, too, shall pass. They will quit their jobs and life will go on. Many will die of covid while life goes on for the rest of us. No matter how these crazies and the media want to spin it, the fact is that most of us welcome the vaccine. That's the truth of it and their reports can't change that.
PS. Just saw this NYT article via today’s Boston Globe, headlined “Early leaders US, Israel now behind in shots.’ This, too is all about numbers and made into a horse race. I really have no interest in knowing where the US stands versus Portugal, eg. regarding the %age of their population that is vaccinated. Can the msm STOP seeing every story through this inane competitive prism, PLEASE.
The Hill is reporting that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is telling the recently quit police to come to Florida and is dangling a $5,000 bonus (not yet allocated) if they come.
So the folks who quit over culture war issues are heroes celebrated by our Failed Political Press ™ , and the folks who are holding out from returning to pandemic unsafe working conditions are cowards and moochers. If this isn’t late-stage American Capitalism, I want to know what is.
Here's a good overview of the challenges information, and the informed, face today https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/10/lee-camp-the-four-layers-of-reality-and-why-were-only-allowed-to-talk-about-one.html