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The malignant hatred of the Clintons that Howell Raines infused into the New York Times has damaged this country and brought the US to a constitutional crisis.

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it really did. looking back on the coverage is always slightly mind-boggling. we had a centrist Dem president who was for the most part very popular and successful and it drove the NYT nuts.

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The media is guilty of putting profit and ratings above the good of the nation. They are more fearful of being banned from these White House shit shows than to do the right thing and call this maniac out. And is it possible that Trump's actions are being dictated by Vladimir Putin? I'm not a conspiracy nut but if you were a foreign advisory of the United States, you couldn't ask for a better playbook. Right before our eyes the Trump administration, either by Trump's action or inaction by his enablers are destroying our country. Over the past 3 plus years of this madness many have said how could it get any worse but it always does. So what makes anyone think that with all that has happened since January 2017 that it's going to get better now, even after 86000 deaths with likely over 150k by August?. It's not. It's going to get even worse. The newspapers are enabling the total destruction of the United States. That's more important to them than standing up to this complete psychopath in the Oval Office.

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I can’t say I agree with this. Demanding Trump resigned isn’t like to make it more likely he will be defeated in November and it might actually have the opposite effect. I thought it was arrogant of the media to call for Clinton’s resignation and the public did, too, if the polls meant anything. Granted they have a much better reason to do this now, but if there is a chance it would help Trump I would prefer they just stop giving attention to the minority of people protesting the shutdown.

I am more concerned about the misleading reporting the media is doing on this epidemic. My book club Zoom meeting this week confirmed what I suspected - that the media’s emphasis not total deaths per country, not death rates per capita - has been misleading. At my bookclub’s Zoom meeting we were discussing when we though it would be safe to resume normal activity. On person said we were being silly and that we should follow the example of Sweden because they have had much fewer deaths without locking down. She didn’t believe it when it was pointed out that Sweden’s death toll is significantly higher than ours on a per capita basis, the only meaningful measure there is. Hopefully she has checked it out since then, but her attitude, something I am seeing more and more, is dangerous and is based on misleading media reporting.

Everyday MSNBC repeatedly posts country death tolls which makes it look like the US is the hardest hit. In fact our death rate, 256 per million is below that of Spain, Italy and the UK - all over 500 as well as Switzerland and France and Sweden. Sweden’s death rate is 346 per million, well above ours. Yet people are saying that we should be following Sweden’s example because they are doing better than we are without locking down. They are convinced that a liberal, democratic socialist country with a good health care system has to be doing a better job than we are. The media has enabled that false impression.

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/05/coronavirus-growth-in-western-countries-may-13-update/

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good pts....I guess my thought is that if newspaper have used their bully pulpit in the past to call for resignations, then Trump would clearly fall in that category. the only reason they don't insist he step down is bc they're afriad of him and/or afriad of losing subscribers

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Great piece!

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No Mr. Boehlert. We do not want Trump to resign.

It is an error to assume that Trump is the cause of America’s problems and removing him will, magically, fix things. Moscow Mitch was hamstringing the Obama Administration long before Trump. Trump had no role in the crime done to Merrick Garland. The Koch Brothers created the Tea Party without Trump.

If Trump resigns; Pence becomes President, and almost certainly, Republican Nominee. Pence is less voluble than Trump. He’s less incoherent. He carries little of Trump’s baggage. He oozes an aura of normalcy to hide his theological despotism.

So who do you want running for President?

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sadly i agree that Trump's removal from the scene will not "fix" today's dangerous and radical GOP. my point is more about why the media won't use a voice they used willingly in terms of Bill Clinton

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A question I have, when or how can we take back the NARRATIVE from the DARK MONEY BILLIONAIRES. My understanding is the Powell's MEMO was a guide for normalizing the Alt Right attack on our Democracy. Reagan ramped it up by telling people that Government was bad, social programs were rampant with welfare queens, attacking black women. They pumped money into colleges and MSM

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