The media’s overblown coverage of these idiots are the reason they have such an outrageous sense of entitlement that fuels them to these acts. While everyone else is banning and condemning them, and shutting down their nonsense, the NYT is still convincing them they are valid and worthy, which only adds to their sense of entitlement, thus perpetuating the cycle. This isn’t a both-sides problem. Either the NYT is a white supremicist rag pretending to be a legitimate news source or they have no idea what a legitimate news source is anymore. Either way, they need to fire their managing editor.
What I guess I don't understand, while they let these types bully the press into repeating their conspiracy theories, is that stories with some actual backing (court documents) get buried and lost--such as the time when a woman said Trump brutally raped her as a 13-year-old.
The NYTimes is working desperately to normalize Republicans, because if they don’t then the great lie of Both Sides collapses, and they then have to be culpable for being wrong for 40+ years. If they state clearly and concisely (as their Style Guide admonishes them) what is happening, then they would have to say that one of our two political parties is the problem. They are not down for that.
I generally agree with you in regard to the media’s homogenous terminology and depictions of the conspiracy mongers but, after reading the Times piece on the middle aged female self identified QAnon, I have to disagree with your opinion that she comes off as anything but a total wingnut. We are beginning to observe the terminology come around(finally). Cultists, Insurrectionists, paramilitary groups, fascists are terms totally absent in the echo chambers until recently. The Capital mob insurrection may have been the ugly light of day for required for networks to bring on some plain language. Unfortunately, not a word from them, print or video, acknowledging their role in creating our current state of madness and being manipulated mercilessly by the idiot savant.
Yes sir. And the real test will come in the days and weeks ahead when we see the legit news outlets transition to the actual news, and trump's antics fade away to where they belong; in the tabloids, if even there....or not.
Meanwhile the Washington Post is publishing puff pieces about Melania:
“But rather than dwell on what could have been, she focuses on what she has control over: choreographing her own exit, trying to cement her legacy as a first lady who devoted much time to renovations of the White House, and making plans to continue her “Be Best” initiative. Quietly, she has also been working with Chief Usher Timothy Harleth to facilitate the move-in of the Bidens.”
I think so much focus on Trump supporters by the media - especially the loud, big flag-flying groups and outlandish individuals - is perhaps one reason so many of them can't believe so many voted for Biden. They have been in such a bubble with their entitlement and brazenness encouraged by the attention they have received from a variety of media outlets across the continuum - and so many of Biden/Harris supporters have been ignored that they had no idea how many of us were motivated, for a variety of reasons, to get out the vote for Biden/against Trump. It's like we weren't newsworthy - especially BIPOC who were vital to Biden's win.
On the podcast, The Daily, Times host Michael Barbaro played a bunch of audio of Trump fans and their disbeliefs. I couldn't help remembering your piece which I had read earlier. At the point of exasperation, nausea, or whatever, he did say that tomorrow's pod will include Biden supporters. If that proves to be sufficient counterpoint, mazel tov, but it still leaves me wondering why it couldn't have been fit into a single day's effort.
While your expose on the Times is 100 percent accurate, let's not forget our friends over at Fox News. Now that the Trump era is coming to a close, maybe Fox could come closer to the center in an attempt to not give more incentive to an unhinged right. But of course that's just a fantasy. Last night Sean Hannity railed on and on about how Biden is only catering to the left and that the Democrats are not doing enough to heal our country. This will be Fox's spin in the coming months, that the division in this country is because of Democrats. Even an insurrection by Trump loving goons who stormed our Capitol and likely got help from inside of Congress can't get Fox to change the way they report. They are without morals or conscience.
Yes, the media has to stop coddling these racist lunatics. They are the biggest threat to our survival as a democracy.
But I also have a Warning for my Fellow Lefties : We have seen what happened to the GOP when they allowed their fringes to take over. We progressive Democrats have to be very careful about allowing our fringe to take over the Democratic Party. We think nothing could be worse than the Corporate Dems, but we are wrong. A cruel, reckless Far Left Democratic Party could be devastating for women and children- especially disabled women and poor women and children of color.
The Far Left consistently trivializes sexual violence and sex trafficking. As a survivor of both those things, I feel completely betrayed by the "Squad" and their recent decision to come out against FOSTA/SESTA, and to mouth the insane slogan "sex work is work."
When a person claims that "sex work is work" they are making a false equivalence between forcing someone to do the dishes and forcing someone to endure unwanted sexual penetration. As an incest survivor, I can promise you that had my father merely forced me to do dishes rather than endure his sexual assaults, I would have been far less traumatized. "Sex work is work" trivializes the severe trauma that most survivors of the sex trade describe. "Sex work is work" is as cruel and misogynistic as anything I have heard from the Far Right.
When it comes to criminal justice, the Far Left would essentially decriminalize rape by encouraging victims to reconcile with their abusers instead of fighting for justice (as oppressed men are allowed to do). Instead of encouraging women to make our criminal justice system friendlier to women and children, they tell women and children to avoid seeking justice altogether. They follow in the tradition of the Catholic Church and the White Evangelicals by telling women to prioritize the freedom and forgiveness of adult men over the safety and freedom of women and children. This is Supreme Patriarchy, and the Far Left and Far Right overlap in this way.
We must not allow the Far Left to dominate our party. Their solution to women's poverty would be to open a "safe" legal brothel in every poor neighborhood and on every Native American reservation (Black and Indigenous women are those most likely to be recruited into the sex trade). As prostitution survivor Rachel Moran once said "When a woman is hungry, the humane thing to do is put food in her mouth, not your penis." The Far Left seems deeply confused on this issue.
Anyway, we do live in a Rape Culture that is as supported by the Left as it is by the Right.
Today, survivors have no real political home. But if the Left could learn to promote both economic justice AND develop a zero tolerance policy on sexual violence and sexual exploitation, survivors might one day be able to call the Far Left their homes. But we are not there yet. And until that day comes, I can no longer donate to or support Far Left candidates or Left Wing publications.
Listen to Survivors. Support the Nordic or Equality Model for decriminalizing "sex workers." And don't be a Dude-Bro or Dude-Bro Handmaid.
The biggest failing of the Times addiction to reporting on the good people who live in the heartland (and one who lives in New York) is that those people in fact are generally correct that the state has been failing the majority of the people since the 1980s primarily through an economy that is essentially flat -- jobs with fewer benefits and a necessary reliance on public assistance and easy credit to fill in the gaps because Massa doesn't want to pay a fair wage and he's bribed the state to let him get away with that.
Honest reporting, which would actually benefit the audience, would acknowledge what the good peoples' problems actually are. Instead people who partly in ignorance keep electing the causes of their problems are allowed to speak their relatively limited minds and their actual problems are left at; no additional insight provided. Then again, the mainstream's failure in economic reporting is another way that they've harmed the nation since the 1980s. (Primary, of course, is their support of the GOP/denigration of Democrats and refusal to report on Trump honestly, instead preferring to portray him as mostly normal -- even after his and the GOP's literally deadly response to the pandemic.)
If the gold standard of the establishment press rather spew BS than provide light on a subject, well... here we are.
The NYT is the Rights best friend. As long as they bend over backwards to write ridiculous pieces about *trump supporters* *Qanons* they will continue to mainstream and legitimize fascists and authoritarians.
I'm going to concur for the most part but offer one small thought. Namely, they are assuming the reader's knowledge, or so it seems to me. The idea that this nice lady with a cute dog is part of a treasonous conspiracy might be shocking to some people, and THAT is the essential angle--but they aren't offering enough context.
it's good having a discussion on the corporate media's role as a echo chamber of the lies, conspiracies and blatant bullshit. none of this is "breaking news"; it's essentially clickbait to hook your attention for the 10 second headline absent any background, fact based sources and the implications the event has in the larger picture or issue.
opinion pieces edited to the medium's percieved consumer base. Not much different than what social media priortizes but, on a seperate demographic.
The media’s overblown coverage of these idiots are the reason they have such an outrageous sense of entitlement that fuels them to these acts. While everyone else is banning and condemning them, and shutting down their nonsense, the NYT is still convincing them they are valid and worthy, which only adds to their sense of entitlement, thus perpetuating the cycle. This isn’t a both-sides problem. Either the NYT is a white supremicist rag pretending to be a legitimate news source or they have no idea what a legitimate news source is anymore. Either way, they need to fire their managing editor.
What I guess I don't understand, while they let these types bully the press into repeating their conspiracy theories, is that stories with some actual backing (court documents) get buried and lost--such as the time when a woman said Trump brutally raped her as a 13-year-old.
The NYTimes is working desperately to normalize Republicans, because if they don’t then the great lie of Both Sides collapses, and they then have to be culpable for being wrong for 40+ years. If they state clearly and concisely (as their Style Guide admonishes them) what is happening, then they would have to say that one of our two political parties is the problem. They are not down for that.
I generally agree with you in regard to the media’s homogenous terminology and depictions of the conspiracy mongers but, after reading the Times piece on the middle aged female self identified QAnon, I have to disagree with your opinion that she comes off as anything but a total wingnut. We are beginning to observe the terminology come around(finally). Cultists, Insurrectionists, paramilitary groups, fascists are terms totally absent in the echo chambers until recently. The Capital mob insurrection may have been the ugly light of day for required for networks to bring on some plain language. Unfortunately, not a word from them, print or video, acknowledging their role in creating our current state of madness and being manipulated mercilessly by the idiot savant.
Yes sir. And the real test will come in the days and weeks ahead when we see the legit news outlets transition to the actual news, and trump's antics fade away to where they belong; in the tabloids, if even there....or not.
Meanwhile the Washington Post is publishing puff pieces about Melania:
“But rather than dwell on what could have been, she focuses on what she has control over: choreographing her own exit, trying to cement her legacy as a first lady who devoted much time to renovations of the White House, and making plans to continue her “Be Best” initiative. Quietly, she has also been working with Chief Usher Timothy Harleth to facilitate the move-in of the Bidens.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/melania-trump-final-days-white-house/2021/01/18/291239b6-59cf-11eb-b8bd-ee36b1cd18bf_story.html
I think so much focus on Trump supporters by the media - especially the loud, big flag-flying groups and outlandish individuals - is perhaps one reason so many of them can't believe so many voted for Biden. They have been in such a bubble with their entitlement and brazenness encouraged by the attention they have received from a variety of media outlets across the continuum - and so many of Biden/Harris supporters have been ignored that they had no idea how many of us were motivated, for a variety of reasons, to get out the vote for Biden/against Trump. It's like we weren't newsworthy - especially BIPOC who were vital to Biden's win.
On the podcast, The Daily, Times host Michael Barbaro played a bunch of audio of Trump fans and their disbeliefs. I couldn't help remembering your piece which I had read earlier. At the point of exasperation, nausea, or whatever, he did say that tomorrow's pod will include Biden supporters. If that proves to be sufficient counterpoint, mazel tov, but it still leaves me wondering why it couldn't have been fit into a single day's effort.
While your expose on the Times is 100 percent accurate, let's not forget our friends over at Fox News. Now that the Trump era is coming to a close, maybe Fox could come closer to the center in an attempt to not give more incentive to an unhinged right. But of course that's just a fantasy. Last night Sean Hannity railed on and on about how Biden is only catering to the left and that the Democrats are not doing enough to heal our country. This will be Fox's spin in the coming months, that the division in this country is because of Democrats. Even an insurrection by Trump loving goons who stormed our Capitol and likely got help from inside of Congress can't get Fox to change the way they report. They are without morals or conscience.
Yes, the media has to stop coddling these racist lunatics. They are the biggest threat to our survival as a democracy.
But I also have a Warning for my Fellow Lefties : We have seen what happened to the GOP when they allowed their fringes to take over. We progressive Democrats have to be very careful about allowing our fringe to take over the Democratic Party. We think nothing could be worse than the Corporate Dems, but we are wrong. A cruel, reckless Far Left Democratic Party could be devastating for women and children- especially disabled women and poor women and children of color.
The Far Left consistently trivializes sexual violence and sex trafficking. As a survivor of both those things, I feel completely betrayed by the "Squad" and their recent decision to come out against FOSTA/SESTA, and to mouth the insane slogan "sex work is work."
When a person claims that "sex work is work" they are making a false equivalence between forcing someone to do the dishes and forcing someone to endure unwanted sexual penetration. As an incest survivor, I can promise you that had my father merely forced me to do dishes rather than endure his sexual assaults, I would have been far less traumatized. "Sex work is work" trivializes the severe trauma that most survivors of the sex trade describe. "Sex work is work" is as cruel and misogynistic as anything I have heard from the Far Right.
When it comes to criminal justice, the Far Left would essentially decriminalize rape by encouraging victims to reconcile with their abusers instead of fighting for justice (as oppressed men are allowed to do). Instead of encouraging women to make our criminal justice system friendlier to women and children, they tell women and children to avoid seeking justice altogether. They follow in the tradition of the Catholic Church and the White Evangelicals by telling women to prioritize the freedom and forgiveness of adult men over the safety and freedom of women and children. This is Supreme Patriarchy, and the Far Left and Far Right overlap in this way.
We must not allow the Far Left to dominate our party. Their solution to women's poverty would be to open a "safe" legal brothel in every poor neighborhood and on every Native American reservation (Black and Indigenous women are those most likely to be recruited into the sex trade). As prostitution survivor Rachel Moran once said "When a woman is hungry, the humane thing to do is put food in her mouth, not your penis." The Far Left seems deeply confused on this issue.
Anyway, we do live in a Rape Culture that is as supported by the Left as it is by the Right.
Today, survivors have no real political home. But if the Left could learn to promote both economic justice AND develop a zero tolerance policy on sexual violence and sexual exploitation, survivors might one day be able to call the Far Left their homes. But we are not there yet. And until that day comes, I can no longer donate to or support Far Left candidates or Left Wing publications.
Listen to Survivors. Support the Nordic or Equality Model for decriminalizing "sex workers." And don't be a Dude-Bro or Dude-Bro Handmaid.
Thank You for Caring!
OK, what the hell is a "Trump bobble hat"?
The biggest failing of the Times addiction to reporting on the good people who live in the heartland (and one who lives in New York) is that those people in fact are generally correct that the state has been failing the majority of the people since the 1980s primarily through an economy that is essentially flat -- jobs with fewer benefits and a necessary reliance on public assistance and easy credit to fill in the gaps because Massa doesn't want to pay a fair wage and he's bribed the state to let him get away with that.
Honest reporting, which would actually benefit the audience, would acknowledge what the good peoples' problems actually are. Instead people who partly in ignorance keep electing the causes of their problems are allowed to speak their relatively limited minds and their actual problems are left at; no additional insight provided. Then again, the mainstream's failure in economic reporting is another way that they've harmed the nation since the 1980s. (Primary, of course, is their support of the GOP/denigration of Democrats and refusal to report on Trump honestly, instead preferring to portray him as mostly normal -- even after his and the GOP's literally deadly response to the pandemic.)
If the gold standard of the establishment press rather spew BS than provide light on a subject, well... here we are.
The NYT is the Rights best friend. As long as they bend over backwards to write ridiculous pieces about *trump supporters* *Qanons* they will continue to mainstream and legitimize fascists and authoritarians.
I'm going to concur for the most part but offer one small thought. Namely, they are assuming the reader's knowledge, or so it seems to me. The idea that this nice lady with a cute dog is part of a treasonous conspiracy might be shocking to some people, and THAT is the essential angle--but they aren't offering enough context.
As I said the other day... this is why I don't read the Times any longer
it's good having a discussion on the corporate media's role as a echo chamber of the lies, conspiracies and blatant bullshit. none of this is "breaking news"; it's essentially clickbait to hook your attention for the 10 second headline absent any background, fact based sources and the implications the event has in the larger picture or issue.
opinion pieces edited to the medium's percieved consumer base. Not much different than what social media priortizes but, on a seperate demographic.