Their use of Hillary Clinton as a piñata for right wing causes of course stokes the ire of the Fox News brainwashed but it also serves to show the attitude that Caucasian men still have with women. Full disclosure, I am a Caucasian male. Hillary Clinton, First Lady, Senator, Secretary of State, author, was probably the most prepared candidate to win the Oval Office in the history of this country. That's not to say that she would have been the greatest president but she certainly was more than ready for the challenge. Also, it would have proven to the world that the United States had finally grown up. Hillary was respected around the world by our allies. Had she been elected, none of the nonsense of the Trump years would have happened. The majority of those that died because of Covid would likely still be alive. But no, God forbid that a women ascend to the most powerful office in the world. What the use of Hillary as foil shows today is that the attitudes toward women has very much stayed the same. The Fox News consumer, and I include women in that demographic as well, still see women as second class citizens. Republicans with this latest twist on Hillary continue to objectify women and sadly, people still fall for it.
Assume the mere mention of her name STILL triggers enough emotion and confused feelings to sufficiently muddy numerous news cycles. Agree - with both men AND women. Sadly :/
Yes. There are plenty of sexist women. My mother-in-law always put men on a pedestal and expected other women to do so too. Sadly her daughters internalized that worldview. All three married very demanding men and all three are big Trump supporters.
My mother-in-law was really fun to be around but it wasn’t easy to be married to her son, let alone her favorite child. No woman could have treated him well enough to satisfy her, let alone someone like me who expects to be treated as an equal, not a servant.
My former mother in law actually told me "a woman's place is in the home." And I'm sorry to say my own mother was both a sexist and a racist as well. Most people of that generation were.
There's a very deep-seated belief that intelligent women are either immoral or lesbians, especially among the generation that watches Fox, but also among a lot of younger people as well.
The women in my family are like this as well, along with being racist rightwing Trump supporters. I’m from the Deep South, where women are supposed to live in poverty and struggle or marry a successful man to support them, not be successful themselves. When I decided to pursue a writing career, my family actively obstructed and undermined me, because they didn’t want me to succeed as a writer, and especially as a liberal writer, but not even as a creative writer that had nothing to do with politics. They actively obstructed and undermined it all, because of this misogynistic attitude about women. I lost a lot of professional opportunities and relationships because of them, and it has turned me off completely from marriage. I’m not saying I would never get married, but it is definitely not even close to a priority, and I would never marry anyone from a family like mine, or even the South, probably.
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So, better to vote for the guy you’d feel comfortable having a beer with - rather than the annoying nerdy gal who actually cares about getting her facts straight and getting an ‘A’ on a test… Got it. (Seems like a pretty ‘emotional’ way to vote, if you think about it).
I don't think the beer test is relevant here. Trump has shown how full of himself he is for decades. Name one person Trump knows who'd you consider his friend. I will never understand how so many people don't get the "DANGER! DANGER!" in their heads when they see him.
I still don’t understand why so many people still do Trump’s bidding. He’s a has-been they are still coddling and cowering to. Does he really have that much dirt on them, and is it worth this humiliation? I just don’t see how they won’t destroy him and be done with it. Nobody actually likes him or feels loyal to him. They’re just scared. The question is why?
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I think I was mostly referring to his wealthy supporters. There is no doubt that Drump is getting much money from campaign donors, and money from the RNC to finance all his lawyers. There's also Kushner who got help from Saudi Arabia to refinance his property. Supreme Court candidates that had vast amounts of debt paid off. His cabinet members who took advantage of tax dollars for trips and lavish air travel. Bannon who spent donations for a so called border wallI for lavish personal items. His daughter's miraculous trade profits from China. I'm sure there is a ton of money exchanging hands in Drump World we have no clue about.
I recently read that Jeff Zucker, the man who did so much to promote and empower Trump, has said he loved hanging out with Trump, that he was so funny, colorful ( outrageous). What do you want to bet a lot of the media that has covered Trump over the years agree with that too. He was seen as a “man’s man”.
Because the people who follow him think like him they see no danger in it. When you see yourself as the privileged why would you vote for someone who wants to make life better for the people. The danger they see with Trump is for the other little person. Not them because they are privileged because of skin color. Not seeing that the repugs only need their vote and care nothing about them unless they have money.
Agree- was generalizing - that was ‘W’s’ thing - even though he was a 100% legacy/elite (I lived in a red state at the time and heard the beer comment often)… People will bend the rules any way that fits their scenario. Usually away from expertise - I’m afraid that’s where we are :/
I think W had this cowboy charisma because that's the only way I can understand his appeal, and definitely did not act full of himself for years before the presidency the way Trump did. I think if social media was around at the time Kerry would win because he can be really funny on social media (see his tweet about Thomas Massie at the start of the pandemic)
People I know from Texas (where I lived for 9 years) sure thought Bush acted full of himself even before running for president. Did you ever read what the people who worked with him on that Alabama campaign said about how he acted? He kept coming in, putting his feet up on the desk, cracking jokes and doing nothing. This was also the time he was not showing up for his National Guard duty.
His cowboy act was a complete fraud that the media had to have realized that because the pretense was so blatant. Bush only bought the ranch after deciding to run for president because he wanted to appear to be like Reagan who played a brave, manly man in the movies.(unlike so many of his peers Reagan avoided combat service in WWII) . He sold it after leaving office. Vincente Fox made fun of him for his pretense, even pointing out that Bush was afraid of horses and calling him a “windshield cowboy”.
I read a really good study that found that our white men who are prone to violence have a Christian nationality belief, white supremacy ideals, and tend to lean toward QAnon-type thinking. A lot of this "culture" or misguidedness includes viewing women as subservient beings.
Religion for sure amplifies and encourages misogyny. It is probably the original source of it, corrupted and exploited by men for power. Thankfully, people are starting to turn away from the church in droves because of it and reforms are taking place as a result.
So basically we're back to the theory that the Dems paid the Russians to hack themselves so they could lose to Trump so they could then mount a conspiracy against him. Got it.
While Fox and The Former Guy inflate this story and then shriek about the media ignoring it, the NYT's Charlie Savage accurately noted that some stories are so convoluted that reporters struggle to make sense of them. This is such a story - the Fox News cohort built a monster by putting an inference on top of an inference that came from another inference. Because lawyer A worked at law firm B, and B had done work for the DNC, anything and everything A has ever done was for or at the behest of the DNC. Because Hillary Clinton was the Dem nominee at the time and supported by the DNC, lawyer A was, ipso facto, working for the Clinton campaign. STOP! In Wingnuttia, there's the story. Omitted is the lack of evidence and Durham's agenda, and the fact that there was no spying or hacking. The "story" is Durham wandering far afield of his assigned task, and his unethical and inappropriate use of the court's docket to spread his manure.
Should they even be reporting on it at all? Didn’t it use to be that if the story was baseless, it was dismissed and not reported? Or am I getting my old college journalism ethics/best practices classes wrong?
Sometimes I think that journalists try to fill their stories with words and more words. Trying to debunk a lie, distortion, gaslighting, and their "inferences" doesn't take that many words. When the gist of their narrative is in paragraph 8, then the whole article is too lengthy. Just say it and provide the evidence.
The fact that our society (or just the media) tolerates this self-serving ‘story inflation / shrieking’ from TFG - but also seemingly agreed to simply dismiss HRC from the National conversation - is troubling in itself.
Yes, Biden has an important press conference, and the media are calm and cool. Let Drump say something, and the media is falling all over themselves to give him questions and record his words. Insane.
Exactly. And their audience just eats it up time and again. It is beyond frustrating.
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As Marcy Wheeler pointed out on Twitter on 2/17/22, Durham's "investigation of the investigation" has already gone on 50% longer than Special Counsel Mueller's. Durham has failed to bring any indictments of significance. Barr left this burning sack of poo on the DOJ's front porch as a not-so-subtle prank to incoming AG Garland. Despite his reluctance to appear political, Garland must pull the plug on Durham's unproductive and destructive snipe hunt.
Unfortunately, in October Garland assured the Republicans (during testimony before Congress) that he wouldn't dream of interfering with, stopping, or even curtailing funding to the Durham investigation.
I know the underlying reason for all of this which is to drum up as much anti-Democratic-Party junk as they can leading into an election cycle. I get it - it's a strategy. However, what I don't get is the insane focus on Hillary Clinton. She's over and done with. She's not running for anything. Most people don't even think about her anymore. I can't imagine that many Fox News drones viewing at home give a damn about Hillary Clinton or what is alleged to have happened seven years ago.
If its about ratings and eyeballs and clicks, I don't even understand the logic of the press pursuing any of this. I mean, they've had a jones for Clinton for ages, but at some point and unlike the Fox News viewer, they have to be smart enough to know no one really gives a damn. If you say Clinton, I heard the name and register that I heard it. Do I then go on to think about Clinton in my non news absorbing time? No. I have real life things to do - for example, bake more artisan bread and try to bake my own biscotti. Important stuff.
If the press is hellbent on boring the crap out of everyone with the same reruns over and over again, they have to know that eventually everyone's tired of that episode.
It's the GOP playbook. Remember how the GOP continually attacked Jimmy Carter in the 80s and the Press Corpse continually painted Carter as a wimp and a failure?
Even after Bill and Hillary are dead the GOP will still beat the Evil Hillary drum and their Presstitutes will continue to recite that BS!
It’s not unusual for presidents who are no longer in office or even alive to be seen as representative of the party — Reagan, FDR are examples. It’s easier for Republicans to use to use the Clintons as a bogeymen who are the face of the Democrats rather than try to paint Biden as evil. Back in the 90s they convinced a lot of Republicans that the Clintons had their close friend Vince Foster murdered. Not only that but Jerry Falwell went around the country making money selling the video the “Clinton Chronicles” which accused them of having many others involved in Clinton’s drug smuggling ring he was supposedly running through Mena Arkansas. That story was beyond weird because it also claimed that Barry Seal’s real drug smuggling operation was part of the Reagan administration’s illegal Contra operation. In what alternate universe would the Reagan administration involve a Democratic rival in an unconstitutional, secret conspiracy?
Even after that blatantly despicable and dishonest behavior by Falwell the Falwell was invited to be a guest on political talk shows as a representative of the Christian community and treated with great respect. I actually know some people who bought his lies and still believe both Hillary and Bill are murderers who represent the Democratic Party.
I have normally sane people in my extended family who truly believe the Clintons are responsible for multiple murders because a respected religious leader like Falwell would never, ever bear false witness.
You're like me. I'm going to make a pot of soup and a new recipe I found for something called "glass bread." All Trump blathers about is Hillary Clinton and his "stolen" election. In fact, the whole GOP cult is obsessed. Nobody, even Kenneth Starr, ever found evidence that Hillary committed a crime. And Durham was supposed to be investigating the FBI, not Hillary. Trump is mentally unhinged, and it's spread to his acolytes, who do his bidding no matter what.
Instead beginning with what Pierce admiringly calls Hillary’s “thwacking assault on “El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago” and all his primary enablers” the report begins with six paragraphs about Hillary’s enthusiastic endorsement of Andrew Cuomo four years ago — as if there is something untoward about her endorsing a man who was later publicly accused of serious, multiple instances of sexual harassment and assault. That is particularly rich given what their own anchor Chris Cuomo did in to protect his brother.
And I still don’t believe the credibility of the accusations. The timing is just too convenient and feel like a petty vendetta. At the very least, the accusations feel exaggerated.
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A whole shitload of people endorsed Cuomo, and he even had a female running mate who is now our governor. Nobody's psychic, and Hillary would be the last person to endorse a known sexual harasser.
"So now his accountants have fired him and investigations draw closer to him and right on cue, the noise machine gets turned up. Fox leads the charge with accusations against me counting on their audience to fall for it again. They’re getting awfully close to actual malice” - https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1494420914120781844
Bear in mind that Clinton is a lawyer and chooses her words very carefully. “Malice” carries a lot of weight as the recent Palin trial showed us.
There were a few articles by CNN and other larger media outlets that addressed the substance-free, insinuation-ridden Durham filing for what it is: misinformation and disinformation. Unfortunately, the cavernous void left by the inaction by Garland and Monaco has created an opening for rampant misinformation to proliferate. In the meantime, Durham is spending taxpayer dollars on a fishing expedition with no focus, strategy, or accountability.
It's also a great distraction from the recent revelations about Trump's shady finances. Trump is in cahoots with Durham, most likely, and both of these idiots think the public is going to care about this stale old "crooked Hillary" nonsense.
I seem to remember way back when Durham was hired no one thought he was a right wing mouth piece. Why do so many formerly somewhat reputable figures completely loose their shit when working for trump?
Correct. Not "the media." The fire-hose of fiction, faux grievance, tilting-toward-fascism, pro-Russian anti-traditional American values noise-machine fanatics with a microphone. Another day another new reality. So far, no effective way to stop them.
Today The New Yorker posted its interview with Dean Baquet, who said he never wanted to be an editor. How sad that he didn't manage to achieve that goal.
The media is again acting like they did at the beginning of Drump's presidency. Fearful and too anxious to call the right wing media's assault on Hillary and Dems for what it is. It's blatant gaslighting, lying, and manipulation of their own supporters. (I'm furious that Durham has signed on to this scheme.) We need to persuade the media to begin reporting the good things that the PRESENT administration is accomplishing and trying to do. We can continue by demanding that the media calls the GOP manipulation exactly what it is. No pussy-footing around with gentle adjectives and nouns. This Trumplican manipulation will get worse as 45 gets closer and closer to his investigations, his financial situation gets dire, and criminal truths come flooding out.
I also resent the pic of Durham they run w/every story - cool, calm + piercing stare right into the camera… WTH - reinforces the air of legitimacy. Picture choices are powerful :/
The Rs love to keep their constituents in high dungeon all the time; hair on fire ‘news’ gives them an endless amount of topics to lie about, while providing the haters with that dopamine rush. Hillary is their all time fave. Nothing to talk about? Let’s fall back on her, such an easy target. The topic of Durham’s faux investigation is just another in their litany of smokescreens to fool their viewers/voters so they can never see their lies masquerading as truth. The better Biden and the Dems get, the more outrageous are the lies FOX et al purport to be news. Don’t mean to be a Morning Joe cheerleader but this morning’s show lambasted Durham and his report, and then showed powerful clips from a speech Hillary gave at a NY Democratics event y’day. Fab.
It's important to note that when Durham was "appointed" by Barr to conduct this utterly bogus "investigation," (one that makes "Travelgate" look like Watergate) the main stream media (and way too many others among us) basically fell over themselves and genuflected before Durham by imbuing him with characteristics he doesn't have, like respect, restraint, or non-partisanship.
The indictment of Sussman is a classic example. It makes me mindful of the old adage that you can indict a ham sandwich, the difference here being that there is meat on a ham sandwich. Durham is a hack and he always has been. Now he's just a has-been.
Fox News should be classified as gossip and moved to the E! Entertainment Network. I am amazed that they still roll with Hillary Clinton controversies when she has not been a part of the political scene in any real way for eight years. Everyone seems to know the well is dry when it comes to Hillary bs except the media. At what point do we start referring to the media as part of the cult? I watched Hillary speak at the NYS Democratic Party Convention yesterday and she was cool, confident and non-plussed by their attempts. She is essentially ROTFLMAO about all of this.
Their use of Hillary Clinton as a piñata for right wing causes of course stokes the ire of the Fox News brainwashed but it also serves to show the attitude that Caucasian men still have with women. Full disclosure, I am a Caucasian male. Hillary Clinton, First Lady, Senator, Secretary of State, author, was probably the most prepared candidate to win the Oval Office in the history of this country. That's not to say that she would have been the greatest president but she certainly was more than ready for the challenge. Also, it would have proven to the world that the United States had finally grown up. Hillary was respected around the world by our allies. Had she been elected, none of the nonsense of the Trump years would have happened. The majority of those that died because of Covid would likely still be alive. But no, God forbid that a women ascend to the most powerful office in the world. What the use of Hillary as foil shows today is that the attitudes toward women has very much stayed the same. The Fox News consumer, and I include women in that demographic as well, still see women as second class citizens. Republicans with this latest twist on Hillary continue to objectify women and sadly, people still fall for it.
indeed, misogyny is a helluva drug
And, it's terrible to grow up in a home that the mother practices misogynistic child-rearing practices.
Assume the mere mention of her name STILL triggers enough emotion and confused feelings to sufficiently muddy numerous news cycles. Agree - with both men AND women. Sadly :/
Yes. There are plenty of sexist women. My mother-in-law always put men on a pedestal and expected other women to do so too. Sadly her daughters internalized that worldview. All three married very demanding men and all three are big Trump supporters.
My mother-in-law was really fun to be around but it wasn’t easy to be married to her son, let alone her favorite child. No woman could have treated him well enough to satisfy her, let alone someone like me who expects to be treated as an equal, not a servant.
My former mother in law actually told me "a woman's place is in the home." And I'm sorry to say my own mother was both a sexist and a racist as well. Most people of that generation were.
There's a very deep-seated belief that intelligent women are either immoral or lesbians, especially among the generation that watches Fox, but also among a lot of younger people as well.
The women in my family are like this as well, along with being racist rightwing Trump supporters. I’m from the Deep South, where women are supposed to live in poverty and struggle or marry a successful man to support them, not be successful themselves. When I decided to pursue a writing career, my family actively obstructed and undermined me, because they didn’t want me to succeed as a writer, and especially as a liberal writer, but not even as a creative writer that had nothing to do with politics. They actively obstructed and undermined it all, because of this misogynistic attitude about women. I lost a lot of professional opportunities and relationships because of them, and it has turned me off completely from marriage. I’m not saying I would never get married, but it is definitely not even close to a priority, and I would never marry anyone from a family like mine, or even the South, probably.
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Yep.
So, better to vote for the guy you’d feel comfortable having a beer with - rather than the annoying nerdy gal who actually cares about getting her facts straight and getting an ‘A’ on a test… Got it. (Seems like a pretty ‘emotional’ way to vote, if you think about it).
It never ceases to amaze me how overly emotional men are, while they project this weakness onto women.
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I don't think the beer test is relevant here. Trump has shown how full of himself he is for decades. Name one person Trump knows who'd you consider his friend. I will never understand how so many people don't get the "DANGER! DANGER!" in their heads when they see him.
I still don’t understand why so many people still do Trump’s bidding. He’s a has-been they are still coddling and cowering to. Does he really have that much dirt on them, and is it worth this humiliation? I just don’t see how they won’t destroy him and be done with it. Nobody actually likes him or feels loyal to him. They’re just scared. The question is why?
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It's $$$$ and power.
Do you think so? How much money and power does Trump have that hey don’t actively give him?
I think I was mostly referring to his wealthy supporters. There is no doubt that Drump is getting much money from campaign donors, and money from the RNC to finance all his lawyers. There's also Kushner who got help from Saudi Arabia to refinance his property. Supreme Court candidates that had vast amounts of debt paid off. His cabinet members who took advantage of tax dollars for trips and lavish air travel. Bannon who spent donations for a so called border wallI for lavish personal items. His daughter's miraculous trade profits from China. I'm sure there is a ton of money exchanging hands in Drump World we have no clue about.
I recently read that Jeff Zucker, the man who did so much to promote and empower Trump, has said he loved hanging out with Trump, that he was so funny, colorful ( outrageous). What do you want to bet a lot of the media that has covered Trump over the years agree with that too. He was seen as a “man’s man”.
Include Mark Burnett in that group :/
Because the people who follow him think like him they see no danger in it. When you see yourself as the privileged why would you vote for someone who wants to make life better for the people. The danger they see with Trump is for the other little person. Not them because they are privileged because of skin color. Not seeing that the repugs only need their vote and care nothing about them unless they have money.
Agree- was generalizing - that was ‘W’s’ thing - even though he was a 100% legacy/elite (I lived in a red state at the time and heard the beer comment often)… People will bend the rules any way that fits their scenario. Usually away from expertise - I’m afraid that’s where we are :/
I think W had this cowboy charisma because that's the only way I can understand his appeal, and definitely did not act full of himself for years before the presidency the way Trump did. I think if social media was around at the time Kerry would win because he can be really funny on social media (see his tweet about Thomas Massie at the start of the pandemic)
People I know from Texas (where I lived for 9 years) sure thought Bush acted full of himself even before running for president. Did you ever read what the people who worked with him on that Alabama campaign said about how he acted? He kept coming in, putting his feet up on the desk, cracking jokes and doing nothing. This was also the time he was not showing up for his National Guard duty.
His cowboy act was a complete fraud that the media had to have realized that because the pretense was so blatant. Bush only bought the ranch after deciding to run for president because he wanted to appear to be like Reagan who played a brave, manly man in the movies.(unlike so many of his peers Reagan avoided combat service in WWII) . He sold it after leaving office. Vincente Fox made fun of him for his pretense, even pointing out that Bush was afraid of horses and calling him a “windshield cowboy”.
Rove advised buying the ranch, I believe.
It's refreshing to hear it laid out this way, especially from a white male. With respect, a white female.
I read a really good study that found that our white men who are prone to violence have a Christian nationality belief, white supremacy ideals, and tend to lean toward QAnon-type thinking. A lot of this "culture" or misguidedness includes viewing women as subservient beings.
Religion for sure amplifies and encourages misogyny. It is probably the original source of it, corrupted and exploited by men for power. Thankfully, people are starting to turn away from the church in droves because of it and reforms are taking place as a result.
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Agree - Marcy Wheeler deserves a shout-out!🏆🇺🇸 Incredible work.
So basically we're back to the theory that the Dems paid the Russians to hack themselves so they could lose to Trump so they could then mount a conspiracy against him. Got it.
Which clogs up the airwaves & runs out the clock - Mission Accomplished - AGAIN - well put…
While Fox and The Former Guy inflate this story and then shriek about the media ignoring it, the NYT's Charlie Savage accurately noted that some stories are so convoluted that reporters struggle to make sense of them. This is such a story - the Fox News cohort built a monster by putting an inference on top of an inference that came from another inference. Because lawyer A worked at law firm B, and B had done work for the DNC, anything and everything A has ever done was for or at the behest of the DNC. Because Hillary Clinton was the Dem nominee at the time and supported by the DNC, lawyer A was, ipso facto, working for the Clinton campaign. STOP! In Wingnuttia, there's the story. Omitted is the lack of evidence and Durham's agenda, and the fact that there was no spying or hacking. The "story" is Durham wandering far afield of his assigned task, and his unethical and inappropriate use of the court's docket to spread his manure.
I agree it’s a struggle, but press needs to be more aggressive knocking this stuff down
Should they even be reporting on it at all? Didn’t it use to be that if the story was baseless, it was dismissed and not reported? Or am I getting my old college journalism ethics/best practices classes wrong?
Sometimes I think that journalists try to fill their stories with words and more words. Trying to debunk a lie, distortion, gaslighting, and their "inferences" doesn't take that many words. When the gist of their narrative is in paragraph 8, then the whole article is too lengthy. Just say it and provide the evidence.
The fact that our society (or just the media) tolerates this self-serving ‘story inflation / shrieking’ from TFG - but also seemingly agreed to simply dismiss HRC from the National conversation - is troubling in itself.
Yes, Biden has an important press conference, and the media are calm and cool. Let Drump say something, and the media is falling all over themselves to give him questions and record his words. Insane.
They’re addicted to the drama. It’s ratings gold.
No need to even give it oxygen, as they say…?
Exactly. And their audience just eats it up time and again. It is beyond frustrating.
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As Marcy Wheeler pointed out on Twitter on 2/17/22, Durham's "investigation of the investigation" has already gone on 50% longer than Special Counsel Mueller's. Durham has failed to bring any indictments of significance. Barr left this burning sack of poo on the DOJ's front porch as a not-so-subtle prank to incoming AG Garland. Despite his reluctance to appear political, Garland must pull the plug on Durham's unproductive and destructive snipe hunt.
Durham realized long time ago he was chasing ghosts. his whole job since has been to manufacture controversy
Today's "Daily Beans" is also all over this.
Unfortunately, in October Garland assured the Republicans (during testimony before Congress) that he wouldn't dream of interfering with, stopping, or even curtailing funding to the Durham investigation.
As Eric has repeatedly stated.
Agreed. I cannot believe they’ve let it go on this long.
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I know the underlying reason for all of this which is to drum up as much anti-Democratic-Party junk as they can leading into an election cycle. I get it - it's a strategy. However, what I don't get is the insane focus on Hillary Clinton. She's over and done with. She's not running for anything. Most people don't even think about her anymore. I can't imagine that many Fox News drones viewing at home give a damn about Hillary Clinton or what is alleged to have happened seven years ago.
If its about ratings and eyeballs and clicks, I don't even understand the logic of the press pursuing any of this. I mean, they've had a jones for Clinton for ages, but at some point and unlike the Fox News viewer, they have to be smart enough to know no one really gives a damn. If you say Clinton, I heard the name and register that I heard it. Do I then go on to think about Clinton in my non news absorbing time? No. I have real life things to do - for example, bake more artisan bread and try to bake my own biscotti. Important stuff.
If the press is hellbent on boring the crap out of everyone with the same reruns over and over again, they have to know that eventually everyone's tired of that episode.
It's the GOP playbook. Remember how the GOP continually attacked Jimmy Carter in the 80s and the Press Corpse continually painted Carter as a wimp and a failure?
Even after Bill and Hillary are dead the GOP will still beat the Evil Hillary drum and their Presstitutes will continue to recite that BS!
The Clintons are their fall back positions.
If that's what they want to do then I think it's a mistake on their part. Their personal grievances are not reflected by their readers.
TFG had 60, 61?- 2020 election court cases. Lost 59? Yet he cannot be silenced. Don’t get it. He had his day in court.
It’s not unusual for presidents who are no longer in office or even alive to be seen as representative of the party — Reagan, FDR are examples. It’s easier for Republicans to use to use the Clintons as a bogeymen who are the face of the Democrats rather than try to paint Biden as evil. Back in the 90s they convinced a lot of Republicans that the Clintons had their close friend Vince Foster murdered. Not only that but Jerry Falwell went around the country making money selling the video the “Clinton Chronicles” which accused them of having many others involved in Clinton’s drug smuggling ring he was supposedly running through Mena Arkansas. That story was beyond weird because it also claimed that Barry Seal’s real drug smuggling operation was part of the Reagan administration’s illegal Contra operation. In what alternate universe would the Reagan administration involve a Democratic rival in an unconstitutional, secret conspiracy?
Even after that blatantly despicable and dishonest behavior by Falwell the Falwell was invited to be a guest on political talk shows as a representative of the Christian community and treated with great respect. I actually know some people who bought his lies and still believe both Hillary and Bill are murderers who represent the Democratic Party.
I have normally sane people in my extended family who truly believe the Clintons are responsible for multiple murders because a respected religious leader like Falwell would never, ever bear false witness.
I have a sister who endlessly posts the "Clinton Body Count" crap on her Facebook page.
Me too.
Won't work. She's been brainwashed by the GOP 24/7 Bullshit Machine.
Facebook sees nothing wrong. But when I posted a negative remark about Fox I got 30 days in Facebook jail.
You're like me. I'm going to make a pot of soup and a new recipe I found for something called "glass bread." All Trump blathers about is Hillary Clinton and his "stolen" election. In fact, the whole GOP cult is obsessed. Nobody, even Kenneth Starr, ever found evidence that Hillary committed a crime. And Durham was supposed to be investigating the FBI, not Hillary. Trump is mentally unhinged, and it's spread to his acolytes, who do his bidding no matter what.
I want to know how your bread turns out. I had never heard of it but I just watched a video. It looks delicious!
It'll be tricky, like crumpets. But I love the tricky stuff. I actually made pita bread on a coal fire once. It made me cocky lol
Yep.
This is Trump’s ego, a petty vendetta. Nothing more.
Esquire’s Charles Pierce just posted this:
“This CNN Report on Hillary Clinton Manages to Find a New Wrong Way to Cover Her”
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a39134405/hillary-clinton-speech-new-york-cnn-trump/
Instead beginning with what Pierce admiringly calls Hillary’s “thwacking assault on “El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago” and all his primary enablers” the report begins with six paragraphs about Hillary’s enthusiastic endorsement of Andrew Cuomo four years ago — as if there is something untoward about her endorsing a man who was later publicly accused of serious, multiple instances of sexual harassment and assault. That is particularly rich given what their own anchor Chris Cuomo did in to protect his brother.
I voted for Cuomo more than once. I don't apologize for it nor feel responsible for his private actions. Clinton the same.
And I still don’t believe the credibility of the accusations. The timing is just too convenient and feel like a petty vendetta. At the very least, the accusations feel exaggerated.
I talk about Clinton Derangement Syndrome in my latest newsletter, PANEM, if you’d like to check it out: https://panem.substack.com
Ugh, enough with this crappy attempt at falsely claiming that Hillary Clinton is just as bad as Dolt 45.
Seriously, the jackasses don't want to admit their complicity in putting the Blobfather in office because they didn't fairly cover her back in 2016.
A whole shitload of people endorsed Cuomo, and he even had a female running mate who is now our governor. Nobody's psychic, and Hillary would be the last person to endorse a known sexual harasser.
Said Hillary Clinton:
"So now his accountants have fired him and investigations draw closer to him and right on cue, the noise machine gets turned up. Fox leads the charge with accusations against me counting on their audience to fall for it again. They’re getting awfully close to actual malice” - https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1494420914120781844
Bear in mind that Clinton is a lawyer and chooses her words very carefully. “Malice” carries a lot of weight as the recent Palin trial showed us.
There were a few articles by CNN and other larger media outlets that addressed the substance-free, insinuation-ridden Durham filing for what it is: misinformation and disinformation. Unfortunately, the cavernous void left by the inaction by Garland and Monaco has created an opening for rampant misinformation to proliferate. In the meantime, Durham is spending taxpayer dollars on a fishing expedition with no focus, strategy, or accountability.
It's also a great distraction from the recent revelations about Trump's shady finances. Trump is in cahoots with Durham, most likely, and both of these idiots think the public is going to care about this stale old "crooked Hillary" nonsense.
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I seem to remember way back when Durham was hired no one thought he was a right wing mouth piece. Why do so many formerly somewhat reputable figures completely loose their shit when working for trump?
Maybe he gives them money. I'm serious.
He doesn't even pay his plumbing bill. Or any other bill for that matter.
In the job application form it's a requirement .
Correct. Not "the media." The fire-hose of fiction, faux grievance, tilting-toward-fascism, pro-Russian anti-traditional American values noise-machine fanatics with a microphone. Another day another new reality. So far, no effective way to stop them.
Today The New Yorker posted its interview with Dean Baquet, who said he never wanted to be an editor. How sad that he didn't manage to achieve that goal.
The media is again acting like they did at the beginning of Drump's presidency. Fearful and too anxious to call the right wing media's assault on Hillary and Dems for what it is. It's blatant gaslighting, lying, and manipulation of their own supporters. (I'm furious that Durham has signed on to this scheme.) We need to persuade the media to begin reporting the good things that the PRESENT administration is accomplishing and trying to do. We can continue by demanding that the media calls the GOP manipulation exactly what it is. No pussy-footing around with gentle adjectives and nouns. This Trumplican manipulation will get worse as 45 gets closer and closer to his investigations, his financial situation gets dire, and criminal truths come flooding out.
I also resent the pic of Durham they run w/every story - cool, calm + piercing stare right into the camera… WTH - reinforces the air of legitimacy. Picture choices are powerful :/
The Rs love to keep their constituents in high dungeon all the time; hair on fire ‘news’ gives them an endless amount of topics to lie about, while providing the haters with that dopamine rush. Hillary is their all time fave. Nothing to talk about? Let’s fall back on her, such an easy target. The topic of Durham’s faux investigation is just another in their litany of smokescreens to fool their viewers/voters so they can never see their lies masquerading as truth. The better Biden and the Dems get, the more outrageous are the lies FOX et al purport to be news. Don’t mean to be a Morning Joe cheerleader but this morning’s show lambasted Durham and his report, and then showed powerful clips from a speech Hillary gave at a NY Democratics event y’day. Fab.
If only ….
GRAMMAR PATROL: dudgeon: a feeling of offense or deep resentment. :)
Likely an auto-correct. Thumbs up on the comment.
High dudgeon- thanks for that one!
It's important to note that when Durham was "appointed" by Barr to conduct this utterly bogus "investigation," (one that makes "Travelgate" look like Watergate) the main stream media (and way too many others among us) basically fell over themselves and genuflected before Durham by imbuing him with characteristics he doesn't have, like respect, restraint, or non-partisanship.
The indictment of Sussman is a classic example. It makes me mindful of the old adage that you can indict a ham sandwich, the difference here being that there is meat on a ham sandwich. Durham is a hack and he always has been. Now he's just a has-been.
Fox News should be classified as gossip and moved to the E! Entertainment Network. I am amazed that they still roll with Hillary Clinton controversies when she has not been a part of the political scene in any real way for eight years. Everyone seems to know the well is dry when it comes to Hillary bs except the media. At what point do we start referring to the media as part of the cult? I watched Hillary speak at the NYS Democratic Party Convention yesterday and she was cool, confident and non-plussed by their attempts. She is essentially ROTFLMAO about all of this.