The mystery here is why Fox is getting premium treatment from the cable companies - and why cable subscribers are being forced to subsidize Fox with bundling. Cable companies have a lot to answer for.
It seems like everyone has forgotten how much the original advent of CNN fueled the 24 hour news cycle, and the ADHD attention span of journalists for stories reduced to sound bites.
I will no longer go to my hair cutter where every TV is set to Fox News. I stopped going to my gym, Planet Fitness. I complained once that not one TV was set to MSNBC. They changed one TV for me while two others still had Fox News on. Next time I went, no MSNBC, bye. Many bars and resturants have Fox News on as well. It's discouraging. I know it's pissing in the wind and it's hard not to have a cable subscription these days to have available the content you do want. I hate the Yankees too but I know some of my cable bill goes to the YES network. What can you do?
My buddy ran the nearest Sizzler steakhouse. Fox provided their TVs and locked them to only show Fox News. People boycotted the Sizzler until the TVs were gone.
Ralphs Markets had Fox Radio playing in their markets until people protested and they stopped.
My gum not only showed Fox but The Blaze until people demanded they be removed.
From the macro to the micro: What goes on in Carlson’s brain/psyche (dare I say conscience)? every night as he spews unconscionable, blatant lies and scares the bejeezus out of Americans who trust him as he despoils his own personal citizenship? What kind of psychic illness keeps him going? Money and power for sure, but is there some sadistic thrill the spoiled little rich kid gets from spewing his lying filth while straightening his jaunty bow tie and catching a glimpses of his evil image in the mirrors he passes. Lord help us.
The unbreakable rule in the entertainment industry is to Never Gamble With Your Own Money.
I’ll give old Rupert some props here: he’s found a way to have bomb-throwers on his network and not go out of business.
That said, Tucker himself is the producer of his show and I believe it comes from his own production company, which is a typical business operation for a host of an opinion show; he makes a program and fox contracts with his production company for the rights, which usually includes some amount of profit sharing of ad revenue. When the cost of the show and the ad revenue inverts, the show becomes unsustainable for the production company. It’s all in the margins.
This is what happened to Glenn Beck.
Advertisers fleeing will take a toll on Tucker's own bottom line; let’s see how long he can take it.
I’ll add that as an ad-buyer (way, way back), I would argue that if the #1 show on the network is begging for advertisers, I shouldn’t have to pay a premium price for the #2—10 shows. It could bring down the value of buying time on the network, and if that happens, Fox would cancel the contract with Tucker.
I live for the day when I can choose what channels I receive and pay for. Who wants or needs many dozens or even hundreds of channels? It's like going to a restaurant and being forced to order more food than you could ever eat. Just another example of inadequately regulated capitalism run amok.
The power we ALL have is not at the voting booth anymore thanks to the Seditionist Party(AKA Republican Party) being able to fix all future elections (with fair credit given to phony power hungry Democrats like Joe Manchin, Krysten Sinema and a few other cowardly SILENT Democrats), IT IS OUR WALLETS. If ALL of us who are concerned about the future of this democracy simply cancelled our cable service, pretty sure that would take care of the gluttonous, treasonous Murdoch Family and its "evil empire" and also show other GREEDY companies like TOYOTA who actually has the power here.
Yes. Thx for reality check. It’s so easy to get mad at the crazies, forgetting that the Ds hold the WH and Congress. Everyday holds a crisis in the press, ie the sausage making is viewed in 24/7 pieces when in reality negotiating and the writing of legislation takes months. Examining them under a daily, minute by minute microscope distorts the process. Thx Stacey H.
Get rid of the cable box. Cancel SiriusXM that carries Fox. Hook an antenna to your TV and get a streaming service that lets you pick what you want to watch.
I've never watched anything on Fox because I despise Murdoch. I also won't subscribe to Hulu which carries Fox shows.
I think a better analogy would be the poison they pour down the public well. And as ex Aussie PM Malcolm Turnbull has said, that is also happening in the UK and Australia where the democracy-destroying Murdochs also have a significant media presence. A recent opinion piece in The Guardian says this about the lies the right wingers have told the citizens of the UK describes the threat to his country’s democracy:
“ Once the electorate can no longer trust what they are told, democratic debate is denied. We have been robbed of a core right of citizenship.
It is a form of coup, but with a cloud of nationalist hyperbole disguising the threat to parliamentary democracy. To hold power, or challenge it, in a democracy requires continual argument and discussion, the precondition of which is a commitment to truth-telling and a shared acceptance of facts, however differently they may be interpreted. Trash those preconditions and we inevitably slide into a universe of division and distrust impervious to rational argument. We are all belittled.”
The media in all democratic countries need to make it clear that right wing propaganda is a threat to democracies all over the world, not just in their own countries.
Yes, you've expanded the point in excellent fashion. May I add that, having a very long ago experience with dead rats in a well, that the well will eventually recover, and that recovery can be hurried along by removing the rats, and then taking careful steps to prevent any more critters from dying in the farm water source.
Then in fact all those boycott lists aren’t helping to end Tucker and Fox. We should be dealing with the Cable companies. There’s a lot of dangerous programming broadcasting across cable lines. Should we be holding them accountable? Does reinstating the Fairness Doctrine pave the way?
Cable channels are not subject to the old Fairness Doctrine rules (because they're not federally licensed to use the airwaves). Also, in addition to the cable carriers, we must remember that Dish and DirectTV also do the same thing. We quit our Comcast TV in January and told Comcast why (we kept internet for streaming and also watch TV over the air using an antenna).
The mystery here is why Fox is getting premium treatment from the cable companies - and why cable subscribers are being forced to subsidize Fox with bundling. Cable companies have a lot to answer for.
It seems like everyone has forgotten how much the original advent of CNN fueled the 24 hour news cycle, and the ADHD attention span of journalists for stories reduced to sound bites.
i think they get premium bc they know they can raise holy hell re: "censorship" if they ever got dropped
I will no longer go to my hair cutter where every TV is set to Fox News. I stopped going to my gym, Planet Fitness. I complained once that not one TV was set to MSNBC. They changed one TV for me while two others still had Fox News on. Next time I went, no MSNBC, bye. Many bars and resturants have Fox News on as well. It's discouraging. I know it's pissing in the wind and it's hard not to have a cable subscription these days to have available the content you do want. I hate the Yankees too but I know some of my cable bill goes to the YES network. What can you do?
My buddy ran the nearest Sizzler steakhouse. Fox provided their TVs and locked them to only show Fox News. People boycotted the Sizzler until the TVs were gone.
Ralphs Markets had Fox Radio playing in their markets until people protested and they stopped.
My gum not only showed Fox but The Blaze until people demanded they be removed.
From the macro to the micro: What goes on in Carlson’s brain/psyche (dare I say conscience)? every night as he spews unconscionable, blatant lies and scares the bejeezus out of Americans who trust him as he despoils his own personal citizenship? What kind of psychic illness keeps him going? Money and power for sure, but is there some sadistic thrill the spoiled little rich kid gets from spewing his lying filth while straightening his jaunty bow tie and catching a glimpses of his evil image in the mirrors he passes. Lord help us.
at this point i think he's just in love w/ his $$$$ paycheck and couldn't care less abt damage of content. i.e a true demagogue
Aha. Demagoguery makes perfect sense; like FG, no conscience
The unbreakable rule in the entertainment industry is to Never Gamble With Your Own Money.
I’ll give old Rupert some props here: he’s found a way to have bomb-throwers on his network and not go out of business.
That said, Tucker himself is the producer of his show and I believe it comes from his own production company, which is a typical business operation for a host of an opinion show; he makes a program and fox contracts with his production company for the rights, which usually includes some amount of profit sharing of ad revenue. When the cost of the show and the ad revenue inverts, the show becomes unsustainable for the production company. It’s all in the margins.
This is what happened to Glenn Beck.
Advertisers fleeing will take a toll on Tucker's own bottom line; let’s see how long he can take it.
I’ll add that as an ad-buyer (way, way back), I would argue that if the #1 show on the network is begging for advertisers, I shouldn’t have to pay a premium price for the #2—10 shows. It could bring down the value of buying time on the network, and if that happens, Fox would cancel the contract with Tucker.
Pressure works, in other words.
I live for the day when I can choose what channels I receive and pay for. Who wants or needs many dozens or even hundreds of channels? It's like going to a restaurant and being forced to order more food than you could ever eat. Just another example of inadequately regulated capitalism run amok.
The power we ALL have is not at the voting booth anymore thanks to the Seditionist Party(AKA Republican Party) being able to fix all future elections (with fair credit given to phony power hungry Democrats like Joe Manchin, Krysten Sinema and a few other cowardly SILENT Democrats), IT IS OUR WALLETS. If ALL of us who are concerned about the future of this democracy simply cancelled our cable service, pretty sure that would take care of the gluttonous, treasonous Murdoch Family and its "evil empire" and also show other GREEDY companies like TOYOTA who actually has the power here.
But I doubt the people who feed on his every word would ever cancel Tucker/Fox.
But there are more of us than there are of them, no?
Yes. Thx for reality check. It’s so easy to get mad at the crazies, forgetting that the Ds hold the WH and Congress. Everyday holds a crisis in the press, ie the sausage making is viewed in 24/7 pieces when in reality negotiating and the writing of legislation takes months. Examining them under a daily, minute by minute microscope distorts the process. Thx Stacey H.
I feel ya.
Is there any way to bend the arm(s) of the cable providers?
Get rid of the cable box. Cancel SiriusXM that carries Fox. Hook an antenna to your TV and get a streaming service that lets you pick what you want to watch.
I've never watched anything on Fox because I despise Murdoch. I also won't subscribe to Hulu which carries Fox shows.
People have to call in, dump their cable supplier, and say that they don't want to support FOX.
Not only Fox. I also don't want to support right wing Jay-Zuss TV.
Fox is the dead rats the enemy pours down the public well.
I think a better analogy would be the poison they pour down the public well. And as ex Aussie PM Malcolm Turnbull has said, that is also happening in the UK and Australia where the democracy-destroying Murdochs also have a significant media presence. A recent opinion piece in The Guardian says this about the lies the right wingers have told the citizens of the UK describes the threat to his country’s democracy:
“ Once the electorate can no longer trust what they are told, democratic debate is denied. We have been robbed of a core right of citizenship.
It is a form of coup, but with a cloud of nationalist hyperbole disguising the threat to parliamentary democracy. To hold power, or challenge it, in a democracy requires continual argument and discussion, the precondition of which is a commitment to truth-telling and a shared acceptance of facts, however differently they may be interpreted. Trash those preconditions and we inevitably slide into a universe of division and distrust impervious to rational argument. We are all belittled.”
The media in all democratic countries need to make it clear that right wing propaganda is a threat to democracies all over the world, not just in their own countries.
Yes, you've expanded the point in excellent fashion. May I add that, having a very long ago experience with dead rats in a well, that the well will eventually recover, and that recovery can be hurried along by removing the rats, and then taking careful steps to prevent any more critters from dying in the farm water source.
Here is a link to that article:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/27/case-for-brexit-built-on-lies-five-years-later-deceit-is-routine-in-our-politics
Consequences and repercussions
Probably because people believe Tucker more than you and your ilk !
This is of a piece with companies resuming donations to insurrectionist politicians.
Then in fact all those boycott lists aren’t helping to end Tucker and Fox. We should be dealing with the Cable companies. There’s a lot of dangerous programming broadcasting across cable lines. Should we be holding them accountable? Does reinstating the Fairness Doctrine pave the way?
unfortunately, Doctrine only applied to network content, not cable
I don't know about the Doctrine, but I do know that if we all canceled cable and said why, the cable companies would be likely to respond.
We need libel law reform holding the media and those who sponsor them liable for the content they broadcast.
Good comment!
Cable channels are not subject to the old Fairness Doctrine rules (because they're not federally licensed to use the airwaves). Also, in addition to the cable carriers, we must remember that Dish and DirectTV also do the same thing. We quit our Comcast TV in January and told Comcast why (we kept internet for streaming and also watch TV over the air using an antenna).
This is what we all should be doing I quit comcast and sling TV for the same reason. I will not give my money to that racist channel.