My son used to listen to Rogan all day long. When Rogan switched to Spotify he stopped because he has premium YouTube but not premium Spotify but the damage was done. He had become and adherent of the so called Dark Web and those revolting Weinstein brothers, among others. Eric Weinstein, President if Theil Capital has the temerity to talk about dirty Capitalists and he gets away with it because of his woefully undereducated and chronically butt hurt audience.
Anyhow, the net result of all of this is that my family is fractured. My daughters (both liberal feminists and both in health care) won’t talk to him. I do, but I had to adopt rules of engagement after I hung up on him for the second time. So Joe Rogan is number 2 on my s£it list, just under the Orange Menace.
Thanks for this take down. I hope Rogan sees it. He used to have a conscience. He did a fun interview with Cornell West once. Go figure.
A third-rate comic famous for having a gross-out TV show. I remember him from his stupid fight with the comic Carlos Mencia where he accused the latter of stealing jokes. Of course, Rogan ignored the fact that the history of comedy fueled by stolen jokes. Then again, Mencia probably wasn't white enough for Rogan...but I digress.
Rogan, like Shapiro, is what passes for a genius to the incel crowd. Every aggrieved white man who gets up every morning angry that the universe didn't put a big enough crown on his head.
"a mostly male audience of roughly 10 million that wallows in victimhood while the host lashes out at imaginary forces trying to keep the White Man down in America." -- I was especially struck by that phrase. As Robert O. Paxton has observed, the "cult of victimhood" (my term) is one of the primary driving forces underlying the populist support for Fascsism.
Limpdick seemed to actually believe his own bullshit - or at least he was a good-enough actor to come across that way. Fifth-rater wannabe/neverwillbe Rogan, a failure at most everything he's tried, doesn't have the talent to come across as anything other than a conniver who would sell his mother for a dime. But then, the losers that fill his audience probably don't have the smarts to notice that. Every no-talent from Nugent to Dennis Miller went to pander to that crowd to enjoy the "success" their essential talentlessness combined with overweening ego could never actually achieve.
Rogan is an effing freak of nature, as are his fans. He is one of those testosteroid misfits who sell "bro-science" to thick-headed, steroidal cretins whose downstream health consequences matter less to me than the contents of the average septic tank. If he keeps up his slide into Limbaugh-like grift and evil he should be deplatformed by YouTube. That is NOT censorship. YouTube is part of a private business with its own TOS. Play nice or get the hell out.
However, there is one point I would like to pass along. Actually, it's not my point, it's Thom Hartmann's. Thom has often noted that so-called "libertarians" are nothing more than Republicans who want to smoke dope and get laid. Their goals are all the same: cut all taxes, burn down the social safety net, drown the government in the bathtub as that pathetic, little turd of a man once said, etc., etc. Rogan is just exhibiting what he has always been - a right-wing, psychotic nut job cut from the same cloth as Trump and the garbage people who follow him.
Deplatforming him like Jones would be too light a remedy for that POS. He should be sued into living in a cardboard box by the Clintons and the families of all the people he has sickened or killed with the slime flowing from his "brain" out through the second anus on his face.
Libertarians, anti-vaxxers and wingnuts found common cause in Covid 19, and money whores like Rogan are cashing in. Glenn Beck proved that one had to be more extreme and dumber than Limbaugh to get traction over in Wingnuttia, and Tucker Carlson watched and learned. Alex Jones got rich fleecing the same rubes that Rogan is now pursuing. As is the case with the others, Rogan wants the money and doesn't care if the nonsense he spews literally kills his audience. In hell, Goebbels and Limbaugh are laughing.
And the sane, reasonable people have no comparable online voices to effectively counter the Joe Rogans.
My 24 year old granddaughter refuses to get vaccinated, not for political reasons but because she listens to crackpot "wellness" podcasts telling her all sorts of crap about how it's better to just get covid and get "natural immunity" from it. So she did. She is the smartest person I know, literally, yet she's plugged into podcasts all day at work, and she's just one example of how this garbage permeates all of society.
I am a strong supporter of the First Amendment, but our government has few ways to protect the gullible, and therein lies the rub. Misinformation sells, especially when the salesperson applies the most basic tools - to appeal to people's fears, their vanity, their anger and their resentment. How does the truth win?
Every adult in my family is vaccinated except for my mother. She doesn't want to get vaccinated claiming their production was rushed (not true), the MRNA technology is new (nope, it's been around for about 50 years), and her own fears about the side effects.
My father was a vaccine skeptic and didn't want to get vaccinated until he was getting feedback from people asking my brother if he (dad) was an anti-vaxxer.
Also, my father was convinced that Ivermectin was effective against Covid-19 (not true) that he & my mother took it and she made our household help take it, and they bought boxes of tablets that people were buying from them.
Right now, both of them are convinced the vaccines didn't work because there's still an ongoing Covid-19 pandemic. However, they both don't realize that the vaccines offer a layer of protection from getting the severe symptoms associated with the virus.
My father is also convinced the current Covid-19 surge from the Omicron variant will finally allow herd immunity to happen which again is wrong to assume since this variant wasn't as "mild" as it was initially claimed since transmits rapidly.
Anyway, where does Joe Rogan fit into my story? Well, it's because one of the sources of my parents' vaccine disinformation is a relative of ours. She sent to my mother the link to Rogan's interview with Covid-19 vaccine disinformation spreader Dr. Peter McCullough.
Anyway, it's been an almost frustrating two years having to deal with my parents' reluctance to get vaccinated and get into their heads that Covid-19 is a newer vaccine that the science will always be changing based on the latest research & data which affects vaccine production unlike previous illnesses that were treated with vaccines (e.g. mumps, polio, smallpox, seasonal flu, etc.)
As far as I know, no one has ever accused Rogan of being a mental giant. It’s his rabid followers (Ala Limbaugh) that scare the hell outta me. Right when I thought it might be safe to come out into the sunlight, here we go again..
What's really sad about all of this first and foremost is MONEY and GREED. Everything about our country is money, this Rogan guy with his lies and making a ton of money on lies. If people who listen and follow fake news could still reason a thought they would see it for what it is. The hatred is real but think about this if the government is overturned who wins the rich people. Do you really think they will give a damn about their followers. It will go back to after slavery times none of us will have rights or voice to speak. As we know from the Bible money is the root of evil.
My son used to listen to Rogan all day long. When Rogan switched to Spotify he stopped because he has premium YouTube but not premium Spotify but the damage was done. He had become and adherent of the so called Dark Web and those revolting Weinstein brothers, among others. Eric Weinstein, President if Theil Capital has the temerity to talk about dirty Capitalists and he gets away with it because of his woefully undereducated and chronically butt hurt audience.
Anyhow, the net result of all of this is that my family is fractured. My daughters (both liberal feminists and both in health care) won’t talk to him. I do, but I had to adopt rules of engagement after I hung up on him for the second time. So Joe Rogan is number 2 on my s£it list, just under the Orange Menace.
Thanks for this take down. I hope Rogan sees it. He used to have a conscience. He did a fun interview with Cornell West once. Go figure.
“De-platforming works.”
So, maybe the solution is to protest Spotify through mass subscription loss until they De-platform him. The precedence is already there.
A third-rate comic famous for having a gross-out TV show. I remember him from his stupid fight with the comic Carlos Mencia where he accused the latter of stealing jokes. Of course, Rogan ignored the fact that the history of comedy fueled by stolen jokes. Then again, Mencia probably wasn't white enough for Rogan...but I digress.
Rogan, like Shapiro, is what passes for a genius to the incel crowd. Every aggrieved white man who gets up every morning angry that the universe didn't put a big enough crown on his head.
"a mostly male audience of roughly 10 million that wallows in victimhood while the host lashes out at imaginary forces trying to keep the White Man down in America." -- I was especially struck by that phrase. As Robert O. Paxton has observed, the "cult of victimhood" (my term) is one of the primary driving forces underlying the populist support for Fascsism.
Limpdick seemed to actually believe his own bullshit - or at least he was a good-enough actor to come across that way. Fifth-rater wannabe/neverwillbe Rogan, a failure at most everything he's tried, doesn't have the talent to come across as anything other than a conniver who would sell his mother for a dime. But then, the losers that fill his audience probably don't have the smarts to notice that. Every no-talent from Nugent to Dennis Miller went to pander to that crowd to enjoy the "success" their essential talentlessness combined with overweening ego could never actually achieve.
Rogan is an effing freak of nature, as are his fans. He is one of those testosteroid misfits who sell "bro-science" to thick-headed, steroidal cretins whose downstream health consequences matter less to me than the contents of the average septic tank. If he keeps up his slide into Limbaugh-like grift and evil he should be deplatformed by YouTube. That is NOT censorship. YouTube is part of a private business with its own TOS. Play nice or get the hell out.
However, there is one point I would like to pass along. Actually, it's not my point, it's Thom Hartmann's. Thom has often noted that so-called "libertarians" are nothing more than Republicans who want to smoke dope and get laid. Their goals are all the same: cut all taxes, burn down the social safety net, drown the government in the bathtub as that pathetic, little turd of a man once said, etc., etc. Rogan is just exhibiting what he has always been - a right-wing, psychotic nut job cut from the same cloth as Trump and the garbage people who follow him.
Deplatforming him like Jones would be too light a remedy for that POS. He should be sued into living in a cardboard box by the Clintons and the families of all the people he has sickened or killed with the slime flowing from his "brain" out through the second anus on his face.
Libertarians, anti-vaxxers and wingnuts found common cause in Covid 19, and money whores like Rogan are cashing in. Glenn Beck proved that one had to be more extreme and dumber than Limbaugh to get traction over in Wingnuttia, and Tucker Carlson watched and learned. Alex Jones got rich fleecing the same rubes that Rogan is now pursuing. As is the case with the others, Rogan wants the money and doesn't care if the nonsense he spews literally kills his audience. In hell, Goebbels and Limbaugh are laughing.
Guys, I have a vocabulary question: What is the difference between “misinformation” and “disinformation”?
I try in my personal life to keep it simple, but these two words seem confusing and nuanced where we need clarity.
I don’t know Joe Rogan at all, but to me a lie is a lie, and someone who deliberately passes on a lie is a liar.
So is Rogan peddling misinformation, disinformation, or lies?
And the sane, reasonable people have no comparable online voices to effectively counter the Joe Rogans.
My 24 year old granddaughter refuses to get vaccinated, not for political reasons but because she listens to crackpot "wellness" podcasts telling her all sorts of crap about how it's better to just get covid and get "natural immunity" from it. So she did. She is the smartest person I know, literally, yet she's plugged into podcasts all day at work, and she's just one example of how this garbage permeates all of society.
I am a strong supporter of the First Amendment, but our government has few ways to protect the gullible, and therein lies the rub. Misinformation sells, especially when the salesperson applies the most basic tools - to appeal to people's fears, their vanity, their anger and their resentment. How does the truth win?
Spotify fed me Joe Rogan once. I signed out completely after five minutes and haven't signed back in since.
Every adult in my family is vaccinated except for my mother. She doesn't want to get vaccinated claiming their production was rushed (not true), the MRNA technology is new (nope, it's been around for about 50 years), and her own fears about the side effects.
My father was a vaccine skeptic and didn't want to get vaccinated until he was getting feedback from people asking my brother if he (dad) was an anti-vaxxer.
Also, my father was convinced that Ivermectin was effective against Covid-19 (not true) that he & my mother took it and she made our household help take it, and they bought boxes of tablets that people were buying from them.
Right now, both of them are convinced the vaccines didn't work because there's still an ongoing Covid-19 pandemic. However, they both don't realize that the vaccines offer a layer of protection from getting the severe symptoms associated with the virus.
My father is also convinced the current Covid-19 surge from the Omicron variant will finally allow herd immunity to happen which again is wrong to assume since this variant wasn't as "mild" as it was initially claimed since transmits rapidly.
Anyway, where does Joe Rogan fit into my story? Well, it's because one of the sources of my parents' vaccine disinformation is a relative of ours. She sent to my mother the link to Rogan's interview with Covid-19 vaccine disinformation spreader Dr. Peter McCullough.
Anyway, it's been an almost frustrating two years having to deal with my parents' reluctance to get vaccinated and get into their heads that Covid-19 is a newer vaccine that the science will always be changing based on the latest research & data which affects vaccine production unlike previous illnesses that were treated with vaccines (e.g. mumps, polio, smallpox, seasonal flu, etc.)
As far as I know, no one has ever accused Rogan of being a mental giant. It’s his rabid followers (Ala Limbaugh) that scare the hell outta me. Right when I thought it might be safe to come out into the sunlight, here we go again..
Misinformation is more addictive than opioids and its death count will be far greater.
Another jerk who has sold his soul for fame, $$.
Great piece by Perry Bacon in Wapo today about press getting on board w/reporting about the threats to democracy more, but not enough.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/07/pro-democracy-media-gop-threats/
What's really sad about all of this first and foremost is MONEY and GREED. Everything about our country is money, this Rogan guy with his lies and making a ton of money on lies. If people who listen and follow fake news could still reason a thought they would see it for what it is. The hatred is real but think about this if the government is overturned who wins the rich people. Do you really think they will give a damn about their followers. It will go back to after slavery times none of us will have rights or voice to speak. As we know from the Bible money is the root of evil.