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Of course it's not all school systems. I live in the northeast too and we have some excellent school systems with outstanding curriculums however civics has not been a part of it. But if you look nationwide, we have some dreadful school systems, especially in the south where Republican legislatures don't want to pay for education. This is why a large portion of retirees from the north move to the south because they don't want to pay for school systems since their kids are all grown up and no longer attend school. These folks don't get how good school systems, yes, that cost them more in taxes, ultimately make their home value so much higher.

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My point exactly, tho I once was one of those retirees/snowbirds spending half my time in FL. Lots want their grandkids well educated. Tried to keep my liberal mouth shut when w/all those conservatives, not always successful.

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